MOVED: Can't overclock e8400 on an MSI P7N 780i mobo

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Pchas,
If by what you mean is being able to run RAM at a 1:1 divider with your FSB, then you are absolutely correct.  When overclocking, this is well known to be the most desirable means in which to run your RAM, as slower RAM can bottleneck performance, while faster RAM  won't result in any realized, every-day-use performance benefit (with a Core 2 system.)  Therefore, a 500mhz FSB (2000mhz rated, quad pumped) would pair best with RAM running at 500mhz (1000mhz DDR2, hence, double data rate.)   However, whether or not the memory is SLI enabled has nothing to do with how fast your RAM can run.
I'm not sure I see the value in finding max FSB by reducing the processor multiplier to its lowest value.  It doesn't reflect any real world usage scenario, and it greatly reduces the amount of stress placed on the FSB, such that you'll be able to bench quite a bit higher than what can be obtained when tuning for an overall overclock. As such, it really doesn't tell you anything useful  about the boards capabilities.  M goal is to see whether or not the board will support a stable 400-450fsb with my Quad running at a full x9 multiplier, hence resulting in a 3.6-4.05ghz quad.  I know that the reference boards have no problem doing this, and I'm hoping the MSI will pull through, if not with the latest BIOS, then with one coming down the road.  Being able to support my overclock while providing a superior power-phase & delivery system would make this the hands down, unqualified best high-end nForce board (680i or 780i) yet released.
Mark.

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  • Can't overclock e8400 on an MSI P7N 780i mobo

    I am having great difficulty overclocking my e8400 on my new MSI P7N Diamond motherboard. The same processor with the same RAM overclocked just fine without any voltage bumps on my EVGA 780i motherboard, but for the life of me, I can not figure out how to get this MSI board to do the very same thing. I am trying to get a 3.6ghz overclock going and it worked perfectly on the EVGA board and this processor is widely known to be easily capable of such an overclock, especially since I've done it before. I'm hoping you guys might be able to tell me what I'm doing wrong here. Here are my specs:
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    MSI P7N Diamond motherboard(Nvidia 780i chipset)
    4 gigs(4x1gig) of corsair xms2 6400c4 ram
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    Soundblaster extreme audio x-fi soundcard
    Now, on my EVGA board, I'm pretty sure I achieved the 3.6ghz overclock by simply bumping the FSB to 1600 in linked mode. I am new to the Intel scene, having been an AMD man forever, so I'm not 100% knowledgeable about such things, but my memory tells me that's what I did. Doing the same thing with this MSI board, though, fully is not working.
    Here are some BIOS screenshots of what I THINK should work, but these settings just lead to cold boots. If you guys have any idea why these settings don't work, I'd really love to hear it.

    Pchas,
    If by what you mean is being able to run RAM at a 1:1 divider with your FSB, then you are absolutely correct.  When overclocking, this is well known to be the most desirable means in which to run your RAM, as slower RAM can bottleneck performance, while faster RAM  won't result in any realized, every-day-use performance benefit (with a Core 2 system.)  Therefore, a 500mhz FSB (2000mhz rated, quad pumped) would pair best with RAM running at 500mhz (1000mhz DDR2, hence, double data rate.)   However, whether or not the memory is SLI enabled has nothing to do with how fast your RAM can run.
    I'm not sure I see the value in finding max FSB by reducing the processor multiplier to its lowest value.  It doesn't reflect any real world usage scenario, and it greatly reduces the amount of stress placed on the FSB, such that you'll be able to bench quite a bit higher than what can be obtained when tuning for an overall overclock. As such, it really doesn't tell you anything useful  about the boards capabilities.  M goal is to see whether or not the board will support a stable 400-450fsb with my Quad running at a full x9 multiplier, hence resulting in a 3.6-4.05ghz quad.  I know that the reference boards have no problem doing this, and I'm hoping the MSI will pull through, if not with the latest BIOS, then with one coming down the road.  Being able to support my overclock while providing a superior power-phase & delivery system would make this the hands down, unqualified best high-end nForce board (680i or 780i) yet released.
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  • HELP! - Voltages for Overclocking Q9450 on the MSI P7N Diamond (780i chipset)

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    Quote from: nihilkrist on 08-October-08, 08:03:22
    adjusting gtl ref. voltages isn't very difficult, but it is probably best to learn the basics first.
    So, basically, increase the fsb a little. So, for example, from 1333 to 1400. See if it's stable, if it isn't try bumping up vcore one notch and try again. If not try Northbridge. Then later move on to stuff like the fsb term.
    Test stability using prime95, there is a 64-bit multi-core aware version floating around somewhere. Try the ftp server linked to in the "hot use prime95" sticky on here.
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    My "sufficient cooling" is an aftermarket heatsink, high performance thermal paste, and MASSIVE airflow through my case.  If you want specifics, its the Scythe Zipzang
    Quote from: AaronYuri on 08-October-08, 09:05:16
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    DIMM memory reference voltage - Auto
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    CPU GTL reference voltage - Depends on speed and other voltages
    NB GTL reference voltage - Same as above
    FSB terminator voltage - Depends on CPU voltage and CPU/FSB clock speed
    SB sleep mode voltage - Auto
    PCI Expander PLL voltage - Auto
    My recommendation is do some reading. Guessing leads to dead hardware.
    6GBs smells like mixing modules... Or do you have 3 modules?
    First of all, I already stated the frequencies that I wanted in the top post, and fairly clearly at that. 
    CPU shouldnt be too hard to figure out, as there are very few to choose from.  I'll try to get back to you on that one
    I have 5, 7200rpm SATA 3.0 drives.  It sometimes runs with only 4, as one is a hot swap. 
    My ram IS mixed, unfortunately.  I'm using 2x 1gig sticks, and 2x 2gig sticks.  However, both sets have heatsinks, and are rated at 800mhz, 4-4-4-12, 2t, timings.  (2.1v)
    I AM running them in dual channel.
    If this helps you suggest voltages please do, If not, then I will just have to start trying using nihilkrist's suggestions.

  • MOVED: Can't overclock MSI 660 TI power edition

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    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=167176.0

    Quote from: hurricane28
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    Quote from: jason str on 14-March-08, 23:01:43
    polishedcar are you overclocking in bios ?
    where are you getting stuck at with your fsb ?
    what are your voltages at for your current overclock ?
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    I have already read lot of review of overcloking. So i decided to overclok too .
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