MSI 760Gm-P21(FX) PCI-E Frequency problem

I'm having difficulties maintaining a constant PCI-E frequency. AMD Overdrive always shows it to be 60Mhz (and It should be 100Mhz - if I'm not mistaken). Always - meaning at any BIOS settings - overclocked, underclocked and/or 'Optimized Default'.
So I got a letter from MSISupport saying basically that PCI-E frequency on my board is in fact proportional to HTLink frequency. Then I overclocked NB Frequency from 2000 to 2020 hence HTlink frequency went from 2000Mhz to 2020Mhz and fortunately got a reading of 101Mhz by AMD Overdrive.
Now it's all good exept for the fact that I can't overclock the system for gaming (by raising FSB and lowering HTlink and\or NB Freqency) sinse Htlink being set to anything other than 2020Mhz (giving me PCI-E Freqency of constant 101Mhz) - is for some reason set to 60Mhz.
Another thing that really concerns me is the fact that you can completely damage the videocard if PCI-E is set above the default 100Mhz. To add - you can really see the difference between 60Mhz and 101Mhz while playing the latest games (which is why to begin with I buit my PC).
Here's my PC:
AMD Athlon x3 450 (3.2Ghz overclockable to 3.6)
MSI 760Gm-P21(FX)
2x2Gb Kingston HyperX 1333Mhz (overclockable to 1600Mhz @1.6)
Sapphire Radeon HD7770 (OC)
250 Seagate 7200RPM 2.5"HDD (SATA)
Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus 600 PSU (160fps on OCCT PSU test)

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well it says in the bios menu 'version 17.12' - on the download page it's called H.C.
oki, its right one, but i noted that H.D official is already out:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/760GM-P21--FX-.html#/?div=BIOS
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and what would be the point of flashing it if it won't add the PCI-E control?
it may help with OCing eventually, its for your review. if don't want dont try it

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