MSI Dragon Liquid Cooler

Hi all,
would like to ask if you have any info on what the hell is the MSI Dragon Liquid Cooler? Seen it on scan.co.uk for 40 quid (Pounds) but why does it come as an OEM and why MSI doesn't have any info about it on their website? Seen some reviews on it but they were just comments under product. Wanted to watch video-review, or comparison of it and e.g. Corsair h100i but no go..
Does any of you got it maybe?
Thanks

it looks like a standard re-branded Asetek made unit and is identical to a Antec KÜHLER H2O 620 closed loop cooler so i would hazard a guess its just the same within 1-2C as they both seem to have the same pump, Radiator, tubing and fans so it will be near identical unless there are changes to the CPU contact plate interior!

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Hi ksgraphite-
Greetings and welcome to the Apple boards.
Replacing the logic board will be a very involved job and there is much that could go wrong. If you are up to the task I would suggest checking with these folks: MAC-PRO
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I have a dual 2.5ghz G5 Power Mac which recently started to make a horrid noise which I think was coming from the pump for the liquid cooling system. There was a sort of liquid sloshing sound and a whine like you get when your car windscreen cleaning system has run out of fluid.
I checked for coolant leaks and found nothing. I took the machine in to an Apple Service Center and they have now told me that the CPUs need replacing at a cost of £700. I don't trust this diagnosis. The machine ran fine, albeit at a higher temperature than normal.
I'm not interested in paying half what I paid for the machine brand new just to replace CPUs, particularly for a machine that is discontinued.
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Took primary tower in to apple today with coolant dripping from rear. . .
we run two G4 1ghz laptops, two G4 towers 500mhz and 466mhz. . newest computer of bunch craps out on me with a coolant leak?
APPLE PowerMac G5 Coolant Leaks World database report
http://www.fusina.net/G5coolantleaks/index-stats.php
Only 3 models were made with liquid coolant?
was quoted $625 for processor replacement $85 for hardware repair level-1 $710 total?
seems I made a mistake in purchasing liquid cooled mac. . .
the dual 2.5ghz accounts for 78% of failed coolant systems, check database link above, maybe apple could provide database with access for users to keep track of worst mac systems built. . .
there was another thread that apple decided to put into the archives at http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=957435&tstart=0
why does apple not have a uniform repair policy with these failed machines? Why do I need to speak with a manager and pursue all these avenues to deal with what seems to me a faulty piece of machinery that I have built system of peripherals around?
Manager at apple store has agreed to wave $100 diagnostic fee and to cover half cost of $710 repair bill. Not feeling great with the idea of paying $355+ in repairs for a computer that will probably start leaking once I put it back into high gear crunching data. . .
Others have had apple estimates of $1100 or even $2500 plus in overseas markets. . .
Could apple remove liquid cooling system, thereby eliminating future leaks/catastrophe's?
Plan on making calls to APPLE to see if repair can be cleared regardless of out of warranty status. Pains me to have bought liquid cooled computer knowing that Apple removed cooling system in future models. . .
Oh yeah found in the G5 online manual they say. . .
Liquid Cooling System, Some Power Mac G5 models use a liquid cooling system to manage the temperature in the computer. The liquid cooling system is sealed and is designed to be opened only by an Apple Authorized Service Provider (AASP). · Warning: Do not attempt to open or service the liquid cooling system. Opening the liquid cooling system may damage your equipment, and such damage may not be covered by the limited warranty on your computer.
· Warning: Always operate your computer in an upright position. In the unlikely event that coolant leaks in or from your computer, disconnect all electrical power to the computer and do not restart it. Contact an Apple Authorized Service Provider or Apple for information about servicing your computer. After disconnecting electrical power, you can clean up coolant using an absorbent cloth. Avoid inhaling or direct contact with skin. Coolant may cause minor skin irritation. If coolant contacts skin, wash well with soap and water. If coolant contacts eyes, rinse thoroughly with water. Dispose of all clean-up materials in accordance with your local environmental laws, regulations, and guidelines. Coolant may be harmful if swallowed. Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) are available at www.apple.com/environment/resources/msds.html.
•• alarming words I found are (some Power Mac G5 models), (unlikely event), (Avoid inhaling or direct contact with skin), (Dispose of all clean-up materials). . ahhhhh, why liquid cooled?
what to do what to do?

Processor removal help: G5 liquid cooled

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Thanks to all who provided help on this. I did in the end get a copy of the Service Source for the model I was working on (a late 2004 2.5 dual LCS Heat Sink model) which made all the difference. This document is essential. Thanks to a discussion user who had a copy! In my case I needed to replace a blown PSU (not an overly difficult task for anyone who is proficient in removing and replacing components)
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To view the photos one needs a member account on the forum where they are posted, so I can't view them.
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Hello,
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Hello
Please excuse this thread as not possibly being in the right category
I am trying to reach as much of the Mac community and alerting them to a defect in the liquid cooled G5. Below is my communication sent to Apple?
Check this site out: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/G5coolantleaks.html
My Post to Apple:
Apple should have notified me of the leaking cooling system problem. I could have taken it to them for a check before the Apple care expired.
Checking the sites I have found that this has been a reoccurring problem with the G5 liquid cooled system.
I have bought the Apple care on both my g5 ppc and my G5 imac. My imac warranty is still in effect.
I was told by the store that there is and has been no recall on the liquid cooling system and they can’t give any credit on the repair unless Apple care authorizes the credit.
With all the problems regarding the liquid cooled system, Apple should accept some of or all the responsibility of the this defect.
I have recently purchased leopard and installed leopard along with the purchase of iLife and iWork. I have spent considerable amount of money with the purchase of this machine. 2 23” cinema displays, airport, Ram pci cards and software Cs CS2 and plug-ins for Photoshop.
This computer has less than two years of operating time as it’s in my home in Arizona. I am only in this house during the winters.
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My post on the apple discussion board:
Just took my g5 liquid cooled computer into apple because it is leaking and dripped onto my power supply. I am looking at a little under a thousand dollars for repair. This was my first Mac that I bought in November of 2004. Its out of warranty but has only been used 6 months out a year as it is located in my home in AZ which I am only there for the winters. (Less than 2 years of actual use) They told me at the apple store there is no recall and I would have to call the apple care people to try and get some help on the cost.
I am upset with this problem and had read that after about three years they start to leak. I thought I was in good shape until this morning.
They told me that the power supply could be bad also. They will order the parts and call me when it’s done.
I do feel apple should have some responsibility with this leaking and I will try to talk to them on Monday.
I should have taken the computer in just before the warranty was up had it checked.
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Dick

I just talked to applecare today and they are replacing my g5 with a Mac pro 2.8. They are matching all my upgrades that I had on my g5 that I bought from them. I can't commend them enough, what a great company to deal with. They recognize they had a problem and doing their customers right.
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Powermac g5 leaking liquid cooling

Hello Powermaccers
I like this machine very much, but i noticed some white stuff under my liquid cooling system.
Images:
http://oi62.tinypic.com/35lapf9.jpg
http://oi57.tinypic.com/2zxurde.jpg
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I wonder if it is still safe to operate
No, it is not.
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Liquid cooled G5's - what models???

Hi,
Can someone please confirm what models were liquid cooled? I need to buy a G5 but do NOT want a liquid cooled system. I think I should be OK with a dual core 2.3GHz but I hope someone can confirm that this is air/fan cooled.
Thanks in advance

Only G5s running at 2.5 GHz and above were liquid cooled.
Therefore, the 2.3 GHz model you're looking at is air cooled.

Liquid cooled?

hi there!
is the powermac G5 dual 2.0GHz liquid cooled?
a friend of mine said it wouldn´t and that the vent is making a terrible noise... i can´t believe that!
thanx,
askal.

Nope. The dual 2.0 is not liquid cooled.
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Hi,
It's your machine, out of warranty, you can do what ever you like, you can remove the whole case and blow cool air to the machine, you can drill dozen holes to get better air flow, you can pour chilled water thru all corners of the machine ..... and this will reduce 5 or 10 degrees. The question: do you want to do that ?
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