Msi eclipse sli -freeze on Drmos ,on cold boot after adding ati hd 5850

Hi all
Since I added ati 5850,pc freezes on DRMOS step if pc is cold
If I rebooted after it works
I updated on last bios,but the problem still there
Ati catalyst drivers are the last.
there is green power interface on atx power supply.
Is that the problem ,or any configuration in bios?
My power supply is 600 w
Any idea?
THANKS

Do >>Clear CMOS Guide<< with power cord removed
If problem persist test the VGA in another machine
Or test more power PSU, with 40A[or above] @ +12V
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=104805.0

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Thanks for the timely reply HU16E.
I don't have another psu available right now but I will in 3 days so I will try that.
On the other hand I have mine working as a single rail from the day I bought it (turbo mode switch on the psu), but i am not sure how this can be connected.
Also while I was playing around with the system it started up, only once, with the 6950, and that happened with everything connected so I still can't figure what the hell is happening!!!! I am thinking that something on the pcie port is wrong so i tried on the other ports too, yet nothing happened.
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Starting a new thread to avoid totally hijacking another thread talking about almost the same symptoms here.
My original post:
Quote from: Smoke on 05-April-09, 12:43:21
I get this same situation.. except the event viewer doesnt state anything.
The system is not bluescreening.. it just hardware powers down and reboots.
I get the same message as the original poster as well, it is very annoying as it often happens in the middle of doing something.
I wonder if it could be thermal related to the high IOH temps on the board (often 80-85C, but not sure what happens to them in the middle of playing a game)? Is there any way to log the temperatures to a file so I can check what they were at the time of the crash?
I get this issue whether I change the default bios settings or not. Ive got a 920 on my eclipse board, my CPU temps are below 30C under load. System temp is about 27C.
What can I do?
The following replies:
Quote from: AaronYuri on 05-April-09, 12:56:57
That's way too high, even for 100% load. Reinstall the heatsink.
Quote from: Smoke on 05-April-09, 20:46:53
It is? I found another thread on this forum where it was mentioned that intel and msi said the IOH runs hot and to expect temps up to 100C. How do I go about changing the manufacturers heatsink on a board? Ive never done that before and cant find any procedural help thru google...
Ive been able to replicate the issue by running ram up to high usage. When I get above 98% ram allocation, I spontaneously reboot. So It could be a ram issue as well. Of would that be something possible IOH related as well?
Quote from: NovJoe on 05-April-09, 23:37:33
smoke,
Can you list out your full system spec and PSU spec?
System Spec:
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MSI eclipse SLI (bios 1.4)
6x 1gb corsair 1866mhz rated ram sticks (TR3X3G1866C9DF)
1500w thermaltake psu
galaxy gtx295 in the primary x16 pci-e slot
MSI eclipse soundcard in the 1st pci-e x1 slot
4x 1tb samsung 'UJ' hdd (raid 5)
O/S (= old winxp 32 bit until I get hold of a 64 bit os) running on 128gb PQI SSD
lg bluray burner
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For bios settings Ive got the optimised defaults with spread spectrum off and turbo boost on. Once its table then I will OC, but for now its not stable at the baseline yet.
Temp info:
IOH temps are as I said, around 80 at startup but rise to at least 87 under load, but not really much further that Ive seen.
CPU temps are very low with the dual-fan TRUE 120 heatsink. I havet seen it go above 35C with a reasonably heavy processing load. Usually sits about 0-2C above ambient at most when idle.
System temps get to about 40 under load, or around 27-35 under regular usage, but Im not quite sure what thats measuring the temp of on the board.
The issue is very frustrating but somewhat intermittent - I can go two days without a crash but then get several in a row. I wasnt previously paying attention to my usage at the time tho so I dont remember what I was doing when it crashed that I wasnt doing when it was fine. I have been able to replicate the crash/reboot/shutdown symptom by running multiple memory intensive apps and loading the ram up to just on the 2.99gb mark (the most winxp 32 bit will 'see') and it goes down. No blue screen though.. its a hardware issue not software I am pretty sure.
[edit] Updated the ram part number to be correct.

ok, should I label this possibly as solved?
I followed MSI's advice and checked through on drivers. Ive got totally up to date drivers, but nvidia just put out a .5 driver update (i mean, its increased the driver version by .50) and so I updated to that. I still got a sft reboot on testing, so no real joy.
THEN, I did the big change MSI asked me to do - Ive successfully brought my system up to bios 1.5B3 and pow, massive improvements all round!
Intelburntest runs perfectly now, no crash, no reboot, no errors of any kind. All residuals match. No memory errors. Memtest86 2.11 runs smooth as silk without errors either. PCmark runs out a basic benchmark of almost 19000 (about 3000, or 18.75%, more than the std core i7 920 benchmark without OC'ing) and looks great. Couldnt get that to run previously either.
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I should note, Im only now using the 'optimised defaults' setting thru the bios. No overclock at all yet.
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1) Ive got to agree with HU16E with my ram. I have no trouble running at the 1333 JDEC spec. And I feel very positive about now being able to achieve the XMP spec with this new bios.
2) Thanks for the link Aaron. I did end up using the USB flash method from this forum. Worked perfectly. Chalk up another success story!
3) I did try to swap out the ssd last night, but the system kept soft rebooting while installing the OS on the spin drive. SO I gave up. Seems the ssd isnt a drawback under the new bios tho (assuming it even was a cause earlier).
4) Ive DL'ed the x64 windows 7 beta and I'll likely as not have a shot installing that and refitting the extra 3gb ram back into the system. I'll let you know how it goes. Theoretically 6x1gb sticks should be as much as 15-20% faster than 3x 2gb sticks (and were about that much cheaper for me at time of purchase) but I'll run some benchmarks now that the benchmarks work and let you know the differences in case anyone wants to build their box the same way.
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I'll stress the system over a bit for the next few days without overclocking and I'll see if I can bring the system to reboot like it did previously through high usage, and if I cant I'll change the thread to solved and write out a proper solution post for the problem, symptoms and solution.
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Jkmet,
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Quote from: HU16E on 25-February-11, 04:13:58
Would think it falls under a policy similar to having received a product as a gift. If you have a prize award receipt or documentation of any kind, I would think MSI or your distributor/reseller could help you with an RMA process.
I have the email from the EU Technical PR Officer, Cyril I think, for my address to send the prize, but nothing else. I have opened a ticket with online support and we shall see.
Thanks for the answer though

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All at your own risk, anything you break or damage is entirely your fault.
>Only click if you agree to the above<

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I always flashed my bios with Live Update and never got any crash.
Yes, and? Lucky You. The failure rate (statistically) is about 6-10% and that is unacceptable. The problem is not the Flasher itself, but the complexity of Windows as an operating system. The statistical failure rate for DOS flashes is less than 1%. Do you really want to take that risk (and remember, every BIOS Flash (and its consequences) are the responsability of the user (and the user alone).
BIOS v1.8 is too new and probably not in the Live Update database yet. That is why it is not offered to you.
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http://ami.com/support/downloadagreement.cfm?DLFile=support/downloads/amiflash.zip&InpDrvID=90
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Again, please be absolutely aware, that flashing under Windows is inherently risky. If the flash fails because the system crashes, please do not complain here. And if this happens, make sure you get yourself an USB Flash Drive, because you will need it to try to recovery the BIOS.
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No one of my friends using pendrive.
Oh please, USB Flash drives are so cheap nowadays, that it is really not that big of a deal to get your hands on one. I have more than ten lying around here. Most of them where free give aways.
It does not matter if you need it afterwards or not (nobody cares), what matters is the fact that an USB Flash Drive will allow you to update your BIOS in a safe environment (DOS) and that is what counts here (and this is sufficiant reason to purchase such a device, trust me).

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