Multi-processor aware?

I'm using Aperture 3 and CS5 on my 2GHz aluminum MacBook (4G RAM) and especially A3 seems to get bogged down at times. I'm considering a new 27" iMac. The question is does quad core or hyperthreading make a difference with A3 or CS5? I don't do video or gaming, so these are my two most resource using programs. I'd like good performance, but I don't want to spend extra money on power I don't need.
So-i3 or i5 or i7? (Or extra RAM or better GPU?)

If Aperture is multicore aware I would sure love to see the data. I have a Mac Pro 2.26 Nehalem, 16GB of RAM, 4870 video card, 3 TB RAID 0, SSD boot drive.....and it performs virtually identically to my 15" i7 Macbook Pro with 8GB of ram and a 500GB 7200 drive. 10.6.4 and 3.0.3 on both. Still get just as many spinning beach balls, and actually get fewer on the MBP. I did clean installs on both machines a couple weeks ago and they essentially have the same exact 3rd party software. Faces and previews are off.
Certain apps like compressor can use those cores, not much else seems to ever make a difference. I would love to be totally and absolutely wrong though. I really wish there were a compressor equivalent for Aperture where you could send a batch to it and let it export using all available power.
I am looking to sell the Mac Pro for a new iMac until Aperture can use all that power.

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thx,
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Multi processor Solaris 2.6 and mutex locks

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is anyone aware of any documented issues with Solaris 2.6 running
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I am assuming that the platforms are WINTEL and all other things (memory,
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Jim Ewing wrote:
>
In general, is it better to run Weblogic on a fast single processor system
or on a multi-processor system where the individual cpus are less powerful?
I am assuming that the platforms are WINTEL and all other things (memory,
disk channels etc) are equal.You'll hate me for saying this, but it depends on your application and
your client load.
I'd suggest that you run a load test against both systems and compare
the results.
>
What are the licensing implications of one philosophy over the other?You pay for WLS by the number of CPUs.
-- Rob
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Oracle on dual-/multi- processor server

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IPC on multi-processor environment

I have written a C program which uses IPC resource "message queue" and "shared memory" on a single processor SUN Sparc workstation (with
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Does anyone have any experience on this?
Best Regards,
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Hi.
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Multi-processor Multi-Threaded deadlock

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My next step will likely be tearing down the application to
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WLS on Multi-Processors

A few questions about WLS 5.1 on multi-processor machines:
1. Is there anything that needs to be done(other than purchase another
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2. Will WLS take advantage of all processors with just ONE invocation of WLS?
Or will I have to run one instance of WLS for each processor?
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>
I consider WebLogic to be a great no-nonsense J2EE implementation (not
counting class loaders ;-).Look for major improvements in that area in version 6.0.
Thanks,
Michael
Michael Girdley
BEA Systems Inc
"Cameron Purdy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Rob,
I consider WebLogic to be a great no-nonsense J2EE implementation (not
counting class loaders ;-). Gemstone's architecture is quite elaboratewhen
compared to WebLogic, and BTW they spare no opportunity to compare to
WebLogic although never by name. (Read their white paper on scalabilityto
see what I mean.) I am quite impressed by their architecture; it appearsto
be set up for dynamic reconfiguration of many-tier processing. Forexample,
where WL coalesces (i.e. pass by ref if possible), Gemstone will always
distribute if possible, creating a "path" through (e.g.) 7 levels of JVMs
(each level having a dynamic number of JVMs available in a pool) and if
there is a problem at any level, the request gets re-routed (full failover
apparently). I would say that they are set up quite well to solve the
travelling salesperson problem ... you could probably implement aweb-driven
neural net on their architecture. (I've never used the Gemstone product,
but I've read about everything that they published on it.) I would assume
that for certain types of scaling problems, the Gemstone architecturewould
work very very well. I would also guess that there are latency issues and
administration nightmares, but I've had the latter with every app server
that I've ever used, so ... $.02.
Cameron Purdy
[email protected]
http://www.tangosol.com
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Dimitri Rakitine wrote:
Hrm. Gemstone reasons are somewhat different.I'm not a Gemstone expert, but I believe their architecture is quite
different from a WebLogic cluster. Different architectures might have
different trade-offs.
However, out of curiosity, what are their reasons?
Anyway, here is my question:
why running multiple instances of WL is more efficient than running
one
with
high execute thread count?The usual reason is that most garbage collectors suspend all of the jvm
threads. Using multiple WLS instances causes the pauses to be
staggered. Newer java vms offere incremental collectors as an option so
this may no longer as big of an issue.
-- Rob
>

Multi-Processor Performance

I would like to know what performance gains I might expect from moving our
weblogic application server to a multi-processor machine. Will 2 processors
handle twice server the load of the one processor machine?
Platform: Solaris 2.6
Weblogic Server: 4.5.1 SP7
NativeIO enabled
Weblogic Server is the only thing running on the machine.
Other Questions:
1. Is there anything that needs to be done(other than purchase another
license) for the weblogic server to work on a multi-processor system?
2. Will the weblogic server naturally take advantage both processors?
3. Will performance gains be uniform or will certain features gain more
from multiple processors?
Any links or suggestions are appreciated.
thanks,
Jeremy

Hi Jeremy -
If you are interested in modeling this before implementing it to determine
performance gains, you might want to check out our scalability assessment
services description, see attached. We are a BEA Technology Alliance Partner
that specializes in answering those specific performance questions, and have
done that for a number of clients in the past few weeks.
(See also eQASEsheet2.pdf) - this describes our capacity sizing tool that works
particularly well for Weblogic.
Todd
jeremy wrote:
I would like to know what performance gains I might expect from moving our
weblogic application server to a multi-processor machine. Will 2 processors
handle twice server the load of the one processor machine?
Platform: Solaris 2.6
Weblogic Server: 4.5.1 SP7
NativeIO enabled
Weblogic Server is the only thing running on the machine.
Other Questions:
1. Is there anything that needs to be done(other than purchase another
license) for the weblogic server to work on a multi-processor system?
2. Will the weblogic server naturally take advantage both processors?
3. Will performance gains be uniform or will certain features gain more
from multiple processors?
Any links or suggestions are appreciated.
thanks,
Jeremy--
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(303)790-2816
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Media Encoder not multi-processor capable?

I checked the preferences. Don't see any options to enable
multi-processors. Jobs take forever but they could be going a lot
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Load average is 1.12
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The jobs are not being distributed at all.

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Multi-threads will run better on multi-Processores environment?

Are there any proof to say that Multi-threads will run better on multi-Processores environment?
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Thank in advance

Are there any proof?The proof is in the pudding, so to speak. The best thing to do is to benchmark your application on single and multi-processor machines.
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