Multiple Standby Databases on same RAC nodes.

We have a 3 node Oracle 10gR2 RAC production environment on site A and a 3 node Oracle 10g RAC standby environment on site B. Both use like HW and OS - HP BL45p with RHEL AS 4.x.
Can we have heterogeneous standby databases(logical and physical) running on the same RAC nodes?
Can the 2 apply processes (MRP-manageed recovery process & LSP-logical standby process) coexists on the same set of nodes in a cluster at the same time. Are there any conflicts or limitations?
Is there any documentation that supports this?

Would Active Data Guard give you the best of both worlds?
The caveat might be your SID_LIST_LISTENER setup.
SID_LIST_LISTENER =
(SID_LIST =
(SID_DESC =
(SID_NAME = PLSExtProc)
(ORACLE_HOME = /u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0)
(PROGRAM = extproc)
(SID_DESC =
(global_dbname = <database1>_DGMGRL.yourdomain)
(ORACLE_HOME = /u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0)
(sid_name = <database1>)
(SID_DESC =
(global_dbname = <database2>_DGMGRL.yourdomain)
(ORACLE_HOME = /u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0)
(sid_name = <database2>)
I have a server with ten standbys on it currently and no issues.
As long as the version is the same you should be good.

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    re: Page 64 of Oracle® Clusterware Administration and Deployment Guide 11g Release 1 (11.1)
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    alias More='more'
    alias ll='ls -lt | more'
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    222.65.125.### nusclust160##-vip
    10.333.248.### nusclust160##-priv
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    Private Node Name:     nusclust160##-priv
    Virtual Host Name:     nusclust160##-vip
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    " tar. ./bin/racgvip.orig: Permission denied"
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    cd /apps/ocr/oracle/product/11.1.0/crs/bin
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    paste here:
    chown root:oinstall racgvip.orig
    chmod 771 racgvip.orig
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    -rwxrwx--x 1 root oinstall 19213 Feb 11 08:36 racgvip.orig
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    On nusclust160##:
    cd /home/oracle/oraInventory
    ./orainstRoot.sh
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    ./rootaddnode.sh
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    WARNING: directory '/apps/ocr/oracle' is not owned by root
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    NO KEYS WERE WRITTEN. Supply -force parameter to override.
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    configuration.
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    Adding daemons to inittab
    Expecting the CRS daemons to be up within 600 seconds.
    Cluster Synchronization Services is active on these nodes.
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    nusclust16008
    nusclust16036
    nusclust160##
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    Waiting for the Oracle CRSD and EVMD to start
    Oracle CRS stack installed and running under init(1M)
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    Name Type Target State Host
    ora....160##.gsd application ONLINE ONLINE sun...160##
    ora....160##.ons application ONLINE OFFLINE
    ora....160##.vip application ONLINE ONLINE sun...160##
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    ./crs_stat -t
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    Copying oraenv to /usr/local/bin ...
    Copying coraenv to /usr/local/bin ...
    Creating /var/opt/oracle/oratab file...
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    vi .bash_profile
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    cp .bash_profile .asm
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    change ORALCE_SID to +ASM4 in .asm file
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    /apps/dbs/oracle/product/11.1.0/db_1/bin/sqlplus
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    oifcfg getif
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    ce4 10.333.248.192 global cluster_interconnect
    ce5 222.65.125.128 global public
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    then
    cd /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/
    ./oracle_link
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    /apps/dbs/oracle/product/11.1.0/db_1/lib/libobk.so -> /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/libobk.so64.1
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    On the target node, run the Net Configuration Assistant (NETCA) to add a
    listener. Add a listener to the target node by running NETCA from the target node and
    selecting only the target node on the Node Selection page.
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    Now before I do this I see:
    crs_stat -t
    ora.nusclust160##.gsd application ONLINE ONLINE nusclust160##
    ora.nusclust160##.ons application ONLINE ONLINE nusclust160##
    ora.nusclust160##.vip application ONLINE ONLINE nusclust160##
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    netca
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    ora.nusclust160##.gsd application ONLINE ONLINE nusclust160##
    ora.nusclust160##.ons application ONLINE ONLINE nusclust160##
    ora.nusclust160##.vip application ONLINE ONLINE nusclust160##
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    cluster_database_instances=6
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    +ASM2.instance_number=2
    +ASM3.instance_number=3
    +ASM4.instance_number=4
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    alter system set thread=4 scope=both sid='ORADB4' ;
    alter system set undo_tablespace=UNDOTBS4 scope=both sid='ORADB4' ;
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    alter database add logfile thread 4 group 29 ('+REDO1', '+REDO2' ) size 100M ;
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    alter database add logfile thread 4 group 31 ('+REDO1', '+REDO2' ) size 100M ;
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    cd $ORACLE_HOME/dbs
    vi initORADB4.ora
    SPFILE='+DATA1/ORADB/spfileORADB.ora'
    b. add entries to tnsnames.ora:
    ORADB4 =
    (DESCRIPTION =
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust160##-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (CONNECT_DATA =
    (SERVER = DEDICATED)
    (SERVICE_NAME = ORADB)
    (INSTANCE_NAME = ORADB4)
    ORADB =
    (DESCRIPTION =
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust16007-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust16008-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust16036-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust160##-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (LOAD_BALANCE = yes)
    (CONNECT_DATA =
    (SERVER = DEDICATED)
    (SERVICE_NAME = ORADB)
    LISTENERS_ORADB =
    (ADDRESS_LIST =
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust16007-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust16008-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust16036-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust160##-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    LISTENER_NUSCLUST160## =
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust160##-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    ORADB_PRIM =
    (DESCRIPTION =
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust16007-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust16008-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust16036-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nusclust160##-vip)(PORT = 1521))
    (LOAD_BALANCE = yes)
    (CONNECT_DATA =
    (SERVER = DEDICATED)
    (SERVICE_NAME = ORADB)
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    (SID_LIST =
    (SID_DESC =
    (SID_NAME = PLSExtProc)
    (ORACLE_HOME = /apps/dbs/oracle/product/11.1.0/db_1)
    (PROGRAM = extproc)
    (SID_DESC =
    (GLOBAL_DBNAME = ORADB)
    (ORACLE_HOME = /apps/dbs/oracle/product/11.1.0/db_1)
    (SID_NAME = ORADB4)
    LISTENER_NUSCLUST160## =
    (DESCRIPTION_LIST =
    (DESCRIPTION =
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = NUSCLUST160##-vip)(PORT = 1521)(IP = FIRST))
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = 222.65.125.###)(PORT = 1521)(IP = FIRST))
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    reload
    exit
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    . ./.asm
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    On nusclust16008
    . ./.asm
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