Need of message type in ALE-IDOC

Hi,
Please tell me need of message type in ALE_IDOC and its functioning.Also why it is required.Let me know its exact role.
Thanks.

Hi,
Message types (required for sending the data across participating systems)relate to the structure of the data called an IDOC (Intermediate Document).Message types provide the format of the data, which can be exchanged betweenSAP and non-SAP systems. ALE supports over 200 message types in R/3.
Also check the below links
http://www.thespot4sap.com/Articles/SAP_ALE_Introduction.asp
http://www.sap-img.com/basis/types-of-idocs-use-in-ale-configuration.htm
Thank U,
Jay....

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Inbound IDOC error :51 Passed with out Message Type to ALE Layer

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I am struct wtih the inbound IDOC scenario ..XI able to send IDOC but at ECC side it is in 51 red status and the error message is
"IDOC passed without Message type to ALE Layer"
Do I need to pass these segment values in Message Mapping? I didnt mapped any MESTYP,SNDPOR,SNDPRT and so on.. disabled these fields...
Could any one light on this issue?
Thanks
Rajeev

>
rajeev raj wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am passing values in MM as below:
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <ZPORDCR01>
> <IDOC BEGIN="Constant">
> <EDI_DC40 SEMENT="Constant">
> <TABNAM>Constant</TABNAM>
> <DIRECT>Constant</DIRECT>
> <IDOCTYP>ZOrders</IDOCTYP>
> <CIMTYP>Constant</CIMTYP>
> <MESTYP>Z_Orders</MESTYP>
> <SNDPOR>B0009</SNDPOR>
> <SNDPRT>LS</SNDPRT>
> <SNDPFC>LS</SNDPFC>
> <SNDPRN>PD_100</SNDPRN>
> <RCVPOR>DEV</RCVPOR>
> <RCVPRT>LS</RCVPRT>
> <RCVPRN>Dev10</RCVPRN>
> <REFINT>GB</REFINT>
> <REFGRP>MTI</REFGRP>
> <REFMES></REFMES>
> <ARCKEY>20090909</ARCKEY>
> </EDI_DC40>
> <E1PORDCR SEGMENT="Constant">
>
> I am forwarding these values in MM... IDOC is successfully reaching in ECC but with 51 error in red... Logical system, post and message types are avaliable in Control record of the IDOC which received wiht errors in ECC.
>
> Thnaks
> Rajeev
Fill the TABNAME as EDI_DC40 and Direct as 2 (represents the inbound direction) and resend the idoc and check
Rajesh

Creation of New Message Type for Extended IDoc

Dear Friends,
I want to create New Message Type for MATMAS and want to Active Change Pointers accordingly. Thru this Message Type how can I able to use Extended IDoc which I have created for Basic Idoc Type MATMAS05.
I am Sending Data from SAP to XI ; Any one can help me in this How can I create the Message Type with the IDoc Extn .
for Change Pointers.
Warm Regards,
Naveen Mutyapu.

Hi naveen mutyapu,
see these links
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a6620507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/presentation.html
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_search.html
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://www.erpgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://www.allinterview.com/rss/interview-questions/new/SAP-ALE-IDocs.xml
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Mapping every record in a given message type to an IDoc

Hi all,
As per the requirement, I have a message type which stores a number of records from the database. The root node of the message type repeats as many times as the number of records. I need to map this message type to an IDoc with an IDoc created for each record. However, the pre-defined structure of IDoc has the root node occuring only once. Can the mapping of every record to an IDoc be acheived by using Message tab of the message mapping to have the IDoc occurence as 0..unbounded?
Thanks,
Amit

Hi,
In message mapping Change the occurence of the IDOC as 0 to unbounded in the Target message inside Messages Tab.
Also change the occurrence of IDOC in the Interface mapping as 0 to unbounded.
Thanks,
Tiny
Edited by: TINY MAMPILLY on May 7, 2009 11:14 AM

Posting goods issue using Message type SHPCON and idoc type DELVRY03

Hi SAP Gurus,
I am using message type SHPCON and idoc type DELVRY01 with processing code DELV to post goods issue for a delivery note.
I tried to simulate the inbound entry via WE19. The scenario should be posting goods issue based on the delivery order.
In some cases, quantity issued is less than the quantity in the DO. For this, I need to change the delv quantity in the DO via VL02N before I select Post goods issue button. This will change at the same time post the goods issue.
What I have filled up are the fields:
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Multiple message types for an idoc type

Hi all,
I created one custom idoc type with six segments. I heard that one idoc type can have any number of message types
if it is so pls tell me how to assign these two message types for my idoc .
i want to create multiple message types because i want to send same idoc type to diff legacy systems.
My requirement is message type one is only for first three segments and message type two is for another three segments .
The outbound program 1 for mess type 1 should fill fill the data for only first three segments and second outbound program corresponding to mess type 2 should fill the data for last three segments
how should i design for my requirement. suppose if the idoc has two message types then it has two outbound programs?

Hi Kunal,
Below are my thoughts from a design perspective,
My requirement is message type one is only for first three segments and message type two is for another three segments .
The outbound program 1 for mess type 1 should fill fill the data for only first three segments and second outbound program corresponding to mess type 2 should fill the data for last three segments
Before you look upon the no. of message types you need, i guess you need to look at the business requirement. Per your requirement you want to send send two sub sets of data. The first subset in the first 3 segments and other three segments for the second subset of data.
Is the structure of the first subset of data similar to the second subset If not, better to create two IDOC Types. If they are similar, then create one IDOC Type with three segments and have two message types for each subset of data.
For Ex: ORDERS05 is the IDOC type for Orders, this IDOC type provides capability to carry data related to any type of orders
but the action on the data is facilitated by the message type like ORDERS for create, ORDCHG for change, ORDRSP for Order response etc.
OR
Are these two subsets of data related to each other, if yes understand the relation? If not related at all then you might be better of creating two separate IDOC Types.
Like in the above example A purchase order is related to a sales order so you can use the same IDOC type, but in case of a order response and ASN that data sent is different and hence you will need different IDOC types (even though a SO is related to a DN).
how should i design for my requirement. suppose if the idoc has two message types then it has two outbound programs?
The above again depends on the how tightly/loosely coupled are the data sets, you can have just one program and have a simple case statement on the message types or have two different programs.
You will also have to consider points like, if any of the subsets is more prone to more change in terms of the structure and associated business logic. If yes, then you might want to keep the programs separate to reduce work on regression testing etc.
I am sure you will receive more inputs from the experts on the forum and the list of points to look for will get longer , so understand the requirement, dependencies and if you have any specific questions you could post it on the forum.
Regards,
Chen

Message Types in an IDOC Type

How I can identify the various message types that are been plugged in an IDOC Type? What will be the Transaction Used to identify that? I used the Transaction WE30, but I see the various segments that are been attached to the IDOC type and Not at the Message Type level. I used the IDOC type ORDERS02.
SAP uses a single IDOC type for several logically related messages. For example, the Orders IDOC type (ORDERS02) is used for several messages, such as Order (ORDERS), Order Response (ORDRSP), and Order Change (ORDCHG).
Create Message Type                          WE81
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Assign Message Type to IDOC Type      WE82
Can some one please help me? Appreciated.
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You can check this in the table EDIMSG.
Alternatively you can check this in WE82 as well:
WE82 --> Menu func. 'Selection' --> By Contents --> Select "By Contents" --> I/P your basic type & select "choose"
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Edited by: Suhas Saha on Jun 23, 2010 6:40 PM

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like this.
i hope you have got my question.
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Hi,
Sending data through ALE is not a single-step process. Take a look at http://www.sapgenie.com/ale/. The paper at http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_whitepaper.doc is a wonderful resource for the ALE process.
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What is the need of Message Type

Hello every one,
I am new to XI but i have involved in XI project. I am having a question like we need DATA TYPE as it contain the whole structure we need MESSAGE INTERFACE as it will say whether the communication is SYN ,ASYN , INBOUND , OUTBOUND or ABSTRACT. But Why we need this MESSAGE TYPE, what is the use of this.Please don't show me the links. I hope there is a specific purpose for MESSAGE TYPE. Help me out to figure out that purpose
THANKS IN ADVANCE
Sreenivasa Lakshminarayana
Edited by: Sreenivasa L on Sep 9, 2008 11:15 AM

hi,
Interface editor: The Interface editor provides us to create
Data types
Message types
Message Interfaces
Data type: To define the structure or schema as how many fields and what fields are required by the application system. Basically a .XSD file can also be imported in Integration Repository using External Definitions available in Integration Repository. Data types are the abstract in nature that are not fixed to an element.
Message types: A message type is an envelope which encapsulates data type. Message type corresponds to the root of the XML message.
Message interfaces: The basic purpose of message interface is used to define the direction of data flow i.e. whether inbound or outbound.
It also defines the mode of transport whether Synchronous or Asynchronous mode.

Message Types in DELVRYxx IDocs

Can anyone tell me why SHPORD/WHSORD/SHPCON/WHSCON message types apply for idoc DELVRY03 but not for DELVRY05? I thought each new version of the IDoc would still be used for the original message types.
Thanks,
Keith

Maybe because of some problems. For example : [Note 971803 - No IDoc object types for SHPCON and WHSCON|http://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/971803].
But I found no proof of this change! Normally it can't be changed without a note (I mean, without informing).
For information, this note created the messages : [Note 311664 - Assignment of IDoc type DELVRY02 is incomplete|http://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/311664].

Urgent: Application Object Type for ALE IDoc

Hi All,
I am struggling with ALE IDoc, I just wanted to know that is it mandatory to create Application Object Type when i have created my own message type, Idoc type, segment type and Function Module. I am Getting an error while excuting transaction we42( Maintaining Process code)
Error: Application Object Type is not planned.
Please Help with this. i don't have any requirement of filtering or serialisation, so still do i need to create these application objects.
Useful ans will be rewarded.
Thanx

Hi,
Yes u need to have the assignment of Object type as ur extending the IDOC.
Check the steps below:
TCode- BD95.
Create ALE object type Z... with table name EKKO and Field name -BSART
Step2:
Tcode- BD59 Assignment of Object type to Message
Give the message type ORDERS.
Assign the object type Z........ to segment type E1EDK01 with field BSART.
Regards
Kannaiah

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I have SAP ALE process configured for single customer u2018Au2019 where I send invoic02 idoc (message type invoic) to the customer via PI server. Now I need to add one more customer u2018Bu2019 which require recepient determination. I am not sure whether this resolution of customer address at PI level or config is required at R3 itself.
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I hope my question is clear since this is my maiden attempt to seek solution from expert group.
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Hi ,
if you want to trigger the idoc two times for basic type& Extension..
1 ) you need to maintain WE20 Partner Profiles (This is good already you did)
--> But the Output type for Bsic type & extension type is same so output type is triggered Once so idoc is created One.
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I am using IDOC_OUTPUT_ORDERS and IDOC_OUTPUT_ORDCHG.
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As I have gone through some websites and came to know that I will have to use PORDCR1.PORDCR102 specially for subcontracting.
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Edited by: Chandra Meda on Sep 3, 2009 11:00 AM

>
Chandra Meda wrote:
> ...I tried creating a custom view and sending idocs...
I don't understand what you exactly did (what message type did you use?), but I feel that you tried to update kind of directly (even though you used idoc technology) the table in the target system, you should neither do that, nor try (instead, use BDC, etc., and all other technologies you probably know, amongst them is also idoc of course if there is a standard one ).

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