Nested Sequence issue: keyframe scale setting changes after rendering?

Hi,
I'm using PremierePro CS5.5, and have been having this same issue since CS4. After nesting a group of clips, I make the timeline effects entries to animate the nested sequence. For this example, let's say I start at 00.00 with the scale set at 150%, and end the sequence with the scale set to 300%. Just zooming in. Looks OK, so I hit return and render the nested sequence. It plays back, all is good, but after it stops the 00.00 setting magically changes to 100% or some other percentage. I've tried everything I can think of, from selecting Hold or Linear for the keyframe, to deleting all the keyframes and redoing the settings. It only happens with nested sequences and it seems to only be the scale setting that goes flukey. Anybody else have this happen and could you tell me what I am doing wrong?
Thanks,
Christy

Thanks for checking it out Jim. It doesnt happen every time, you know how that goes... just often enough to drive me batty. I'm doing animated whiteboard videos. Lots of short bits of video layered with graphics and stills, some effects, then all that is nested and sometimes the rate compressed. Then I zoom in a bit and that seems to be the last straw. Maybe I am just doing too much? It's a simple, uncomplicated look to the finished piece, but it takes a lot of cuts and tweaks to get it that way.

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