New boot drive question

I'm looking to replace my 250G boot drive with a 1T; Can I use SuperDuper or CCC to move the OS and applications to a FW drive & boot from that? I'm confused about starting up after replacing the boot drive. Thanks for any confidence you can give me

Hi. You can clone your current boot drive to an external FireWire drive and then boot from it - and then install the new internal drive, and clone the system from the FW drive back to the new internal drive. Or install a new system on the internal, if required.
You should make sure that any other FireWire devices are disconnected during cloning. You should also run Disk Utility > Verify Disk and Repair Permissions on the internal before you clone.
You should check that the boot from the FireWire works a few times.
You can select the boot drive before you Shutdown in System Preferences > Startup Disc - or boot holding down the Option(alt) key and select the Startup drive from those offered. Patience may be required, as it's a bit slow to find the boot drives sometimes.
Good Luck.

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Boot Drive Questions

Hi all,
This may be a bit of a newbie question, but I had a question (or questions) regarding the boot drive on a G5. Does the boot sector have to be on a drive connected to a specific SATA port? For example, if I buy a new drive and want to boot from it, does it need to replace the current drive (thereby moving the current drive to the second connector)? Or can I just plug it into the available connector, install OS X, and select it as my boot device?
The corollary to this would be: how difficult is it to move my OS and apps from the one drive to the other? Is there any reason I cannot simply copy the entire contents and reboot?
Alternatively, if there are any good resources to get up to speed on this stuff, I'd appreciate a point in thier direction.
Thanks!

Hi Michael, and a Warm Welcome to Apple Discussions and the Power Mac G5 forum!
You can boot from any drive or partitioned volume of a drive that has a bootable system on it - drive bay A or B or an external drive.
You can set the default boot drive in System Preferences - Startup Disc - and you can select an alternative by holding down the option(alt) key at startup.
To create a new boot drive you would have to either install OS X on the drive or create a clone of your current boot drive with with CCC
http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html
or SuperDuper
http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html
copying would not result in a 'bootable' drive.
Please post again if any of this is not clear.

Installing New Boot Drive ?

Sorry to double post but, had this in the wrong section.
Hello, fellow G4'ers.
Mine is G4 MDD 867 Dual CPU and has a giga 1.4 CPU upgrade, 1.75 GB RAM.
ATI 9600 Mac OS X (10.4.11). 400W PS
Still runs well enough for my purposes.. besides drives are pretty cheap these days, so why not.
I Have 3 drives total now. 2 are Internal, 1 is External (FW400).
1 - (original) Boot drive 60 gig (20 GB avail.)
2 - Maxtor 200 gig with 2 partitions,
a) 40 GB partition w/ 40 GB avail. and
b) 160 GB partition w/ 90 GB avail.
I also have a 250 gig FireWire External (bootable) drive that has a cloned, used CarbonCopyCloner,
backup of the main boot drive and still has ~ 180 GB avail.
I only want to replace the original (aging) boot drive BEFORE it goes bad.
I read somewhere here that a separate partition for the system alone, could b a good idea. can anyone confirm this for me ?
I got and installed the 2nd drive myself (Maxtor 200 GB), so I think I can do this.
I need to be sure, as to a plan of attack here (software-wise), and appreciate any input as to a good way to do this.
I'm sure there are a few ways it can be done.
My best guess's are;
1-get the new ATA drive (500 gig drives can be had for under $100) Any hot tips here ???.
(How's this sound "500GB Western Digital Caviar SE16 7200rpm 8.9ms 16MB Cache UltraDMA 100/ATA 5 HD" ?????
2-Check and be sure a good bootable backup of boot drive exists on the External drive.
3-Shut down and physically install the new drive, discard old drive, plugging it into the same place the old one was in. (I guess this is right, but not real sure about this, any jumpers to move/check ??? , ) any other possibilities here ?
Now the variables/my best guesses :
4.a ) Power On, Startup use the (C key), and boot with my Tiger Install disk, and install a fresh Tiger OSX 10.4.xxx system onto the new drive.
QUESTION; Not real sure how to get this updated to 10.4.11 yet, but I think there's a "Combo" that will bring it right up to 10.4.11, but I'll need my internet connection for that.
Perhaps boot with the clone/external and download the update file to disk and install it that way ??? Definitely need some help with this .
4.b ) I could just copy/Clone in reverse from External to the new drive (I should think a clean install would be better here as to not keep any system flaws from my existing system, including that messy stuff that the latest security updates introduced. But, this could work, right ? Perhaps not ? I think I would really like to have a New Clean system as the Original HD may be weak/flawed.
4c ) Perhaps there's a function in Disk Utility that can help with doing all this, Restore? Archive ? whatever ?
OK. That's about where I am here. I'm not really a noobey, but I just never had to do all of this and want to be sure of a good plan before I get started, and don't want to overlook anything.
Thanks very much

Good News here, just to finish up.
I Got a FW external. Cloned boot drive to it (CCC 3.1.2). Did a archive & install on the external clone with Tiger DVD, and updated it to 10.4.11 + all misc updates. Fixed permissions between all phases. Deleted previous sys folder. Rebuild & optimize w/DiskWarrior. Pull old boot drive, install new WD 320 GB, connections were all "Cable-select", no master/slave stuff. Started up with tiger DVD and formated the seen new drive. Booted from external, cloned clean, archived/new SYS to new boot drive. Done.
Only a few small probs. with prefs. here and there, but all back and running fast & smooth and now I even have a regular backup plan to the external.

Purchasing a new Boot drive for Power PC Mac dual G5 2.7 GHz ( early 2005)

As I’ve mentioned I have Power MAC Dual G5 2,7 GHz( early 2005)
I’m doing “ erase and install” on my boot drive Caviar and starting from the scratch - Basically doing whole new setup with my music apps,sample libraries and back up.
To describe it little better - My plan is to move Caviar to second slot ( mostly will be used for I-tunes,documents,photos and maybe some back up) and purchase new boot drive.
All my audio and music samples I’m running from 4 bay ( sata ) exterior hot swap enclosure with Lycom card so my boot drive will be clearly for OS X and applications.
Now - I’ve gone through a big research and even though I have not really make up my mind about my purchase - here is what I’ve found out so far.
As a boot drive I’ve been considering following ( I’m adding my comments as well)
1) My first pick was Hitachi T7K500 320GB SATA II HD 16MB Cache -
seemed to me like a very good choice for a boot drive since it has a great random access .But after reading review in “ AMUG reviews “ Using a Hitachi T7K500 320GB with a Mac Pro I was not that sure .Apparently They don’t recommend Hitachi T7K500 for internal Mac Pro usage since it is slower without using SATA host adapter. But that is Mac Pro - I have Dual processor so it might be different?
Second choice was
2) Maxtor MaXLine III 500GB or Maxtor MaXLine Pro 500 GB
here I’m not sure -some guys don’t really recommend this brand but in bunch of online reviews I’ve read it was mentioned as a very good choice for a boot drive .
I’ve been told that this drive is too noisy and too cheap which I think is not a bad thing though.
And finally
3) Raptor 74 GB or 150 GB
Everyone knows those drives are fast
Downside is that size is not very big ( just my OS X will be around 50 GB)
plus 150 Gig won’t work natively on my G5 without host card which would be another extra expense .
Maybe one more thing to add - I have not consider neither seagate drives (since random access speed is not that great) nor pairing any of those previously mentioned drives into raid 0 configuration .
So basically that is my selection.I’m trying to pick up drive which would work natively without PCI - X card and would be reliable and fast.( Only if I would have no choice - Than I would probably buy a host card )
Also I’m not sure whether for example in the case of hitachi ( or even other brands ) would be smarter to go with bigger size - maybe 400 or 500 GB for a boot since all drives getting slower as they get filled up.
I would really appreciate if anyone can give me a feedback as far as what drive would be the best choice in my case.
Thank you very much for your time
Milan

OK - I'll try that one more time - second choice is Maxtor Maxline III 500 GB or maxtor maxline Pro 500 GB.

HT4889 Replacing System hard drive with a new one. How to get everything over to the new boot drive?

Replacing System hard drive with a new one. How to get everything over to the new boot drive? Should I use Carbon Copy or does apple have a better untility to do this?
I can't get my current system drive (OSX 10.8.3) to start on the first try. I always have to shut down and restart again to finally see the Apple logo.
Have used disc utility to repair the disc and permissions several times and that works. The next time I boot up, it works fine and I get the apple logo, but then the second time I boot up, it's back to the blank screen again and it only boots after the second try. I have tried this repair three different times now always with the same result. Works right the first try (after the repair) then from the second time on it doesn't work. I just get the white screen until I reboot a second time.
Thinking I should change drives but what's the easist and best way to move everything over to the new drive so it will boot correctly with all my data on it. This is the system drive for a Pro Tools 10HD setup. MacPro 3,1 with 16 gigs ram and OSX10.8.3 on it.
Thanks for any help!

If you have a time machine back up of your current drive you can do this
Shut down your computer, install the new drive. While the computer is off plug in the external hard drive that you have your time machine back up on. Hold Option key while the computer turnes on, let go of the option key once you get a grey screen. Shortly after you'll see a list of bootable drives, select the one that has your time machine back up on it and boot into that drive.
From there go into disk utility, format your new drive too, osx extended journaled ( I think, double check that, its been awhile since ive had to do this), hit format
Exit disk utility and then you can use time machine to copy all your exisit data to the new hhd and then your pretty much done.
There is also a program called Carbon Cloner that will do esentially the same thing however I've never uesed it.

Creating A New Boot Drive For Mac Pro Desktop

I have a Mac Pro 1,1 using Lion:
I would like to create a new and bigger boot drive but having not done this before I would appreciate any direction that would make this as painless as possible. I will continue to use Lion but am a little lost when it comes to doing this with the download process of Lion as well as transferring what has been created on the current HD in the MacPro. I have a new WD Black 2 TB SATA that I would like to use as the new boot drive. Again, thank you for the help.

Don't. Use. 2TB for system. Seriously.
Use that for data.
Get yourself a $89 Samsung 840 120GB instead along with Icy Dock $15. You will. Love it.
You don't need a large drive for the system. All you need to do is MOVE all the data and media files and every thing else, just leave the small 4GB /Users/myuseraccount/Library on the boot drive with the OS and apps. Everything else gets off loaded.
Leave your drive you ahve now as is for backup. Move data and clone the system.
Clone your system:
How to Clone a Volume
Using Cloning as a Backup Strategy
See also Erasing a Drive, How and Why to Partition a Drive, RAID.
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/7032/carbon-copy-cloner
Using Cloning as a Backup Strategy
http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-HowToClone.html
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-partition-your-hard-drive-on-mac-os -x-snow-.html
http://pondini.org/OSX/DU.html
How to relocate system and user data to another drive:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4337http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-move-the-home-folder-in-os-x-and-why/To successfully relocate your operating system, user accounts and data from one storage device to another, meet the following conditions:
The destination storage device (SSD drive or hard drive) you are migrating to should be physically located in the same computer. Moving operating system files from one computer to another computer using software not specifically designed for that computer can cause issues due to software, hardware, and firmware version mismatches.
Always back up your storage device with Time Machine or Disk Utility before you start.
Icy Dock $15
http://www.amazon.com/2-5-3-5-Ssd-sata-Convert/dp/B002Z2QDNE/
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 128GB
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7TE120BW/dp/B00E3 W15P0/
2x2GB FBDIMM DDR2 667MHz @ $25
http://www.amazon.com/BUFFERED-PC2-5300-FB-DIMM-APPLE-Memory/dp/B002ORUUAC/

New boot drive - Photoshop will not launch

I recently cloned my boot drive onto an SSD, which I now use as my boot drive. Everything works fine except when I try to launch Photoshop, I get an error that says, "Could not intialize Photoshop because the disk is not available."
I have both CS6 through Creative Cloud, and CS5. Neither will launch and both give the same error message.
I tried searching for a similar problem on the forum, but I didn't see anything. If this has already been addressed somewhere, please point me in the right direction. Otherwise, any suggestions would be appreciated.
I am running Mac OS X 10.8, and I've repaired permissions several times on my new boot drive.
Thanks.

You could try resetting preferences by starting PS and immediately holding down Cmd + Option + Shift keys. You should get a reset window.
Some users get in trouble when files are moved from default settings after installation. Also, Bridge will not work if temp file is not on boot drive.
Don't know how the cloud works. Think it is installed on computer? If so if above does not work unistall and re-install might be next step.

Transferring Itunes data and Library to new hard-drive question

Hello,
First I want to state that I made a mistake when I transferred my music to a new bigger harddrive. My bad.
I look here for some guidance, I read this article after the fact: http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/moving-your-itunes-library-to -a-new-hard-drive so it was too late for me and I got these "!" signs on all my song. I have over 5000 songs (not including podcasts, movie and TV shows.
I tried to move my library (succesfully) in my new hard drive so I could keep my laptop clean of all music.
I though I will be clever and replace the target links into the "Itunes Library.xml" and "Itunes music Library.xml" files. Well not so clever because I still have the issue.
My question: Does anybody knows what else should be done to fix this issue (if fixable)? I would try to avoid linking all my music one at the time by using the "locate" function that ITunes pop up when you try to start a song.
It is also too bad that you must do it one song at the time, I calculated that if I do 20 songs a day it's going to take me 250 days and more...
Thanks for any idea/solutions you may have
Thierry

I though I will be clever and replace the target links into the "Itunes Library.xml" and "Itunes music Library.xml" files. Well not so clever because I still have the issue.
iTunes does not use these files.
They are created only for other apps to access the iTunes library.
Does anybody knows what else should be done to fix this issue (if fixable)?
See this -> iTunes Track CPR v1.3
"This script attempts to locate the files of so-called "dead tracks"--iTunes tracks designated with (!)--that you assume are not actually missing but are still located in the iTunes Music folder in their "iTunes File Order" (Music -> Artist -> Album -> file.xxx). Any correct files found will be added to iTunes and will replace the "dead track" in each playlist it appears in (except Smart Playlists). Most tag data will also be rescued."

New boot drive and a clean install of Lion

I have a Mac Pro with multiple internal hard drives. My Lightroom catalogs are on one disk, my actual photos are on another, and my OS is on a 3rd. I recently decided to upgrade my 7200rpm SATA boot drive to SSD. In the process, I also did a clean install of Lion. None of my data was moved, as it was all on separate internal drives.
I have the new OS installed, and I reinstalled Lightroom 3. I should also mention that whenever I import files from CF cards (using a card reader), I import as DNG. I only shoot RAW.
When I launch Lightroom and look at my previous work, or the shoot that I was working on prior to the upgrade, I notice that (at least) the following is missing: flags, ratings, edits. I think I can live without the flags and ratings (though I would love to get them back), but I thought the whole idea of DNG was to store the sidecar "edits" file with the RAW file in one package. Shouldn't I be able to see my crops, treatments, localized brush edits, etc.?
What am I doing wrong and what can I do to remedy the situation?
Thanks very much in advance.

You need the original catalog file. You should have copied this over to your new instillation and then just opened it, rather than reimporting files.
If, as you seem to be saying, your catalog is not on the OS disk then all you need to do is open this after reinstalling LR, rather than creating a new catalog as you seem to have done. Just find the original catalog and open it from LR, or double click on it from Finder when LR is closed.
If you have not kept a copy of the catalog file, then you could use your most recent back up of the catalog, hopefully you made regular backups using LR's backup system and did this to a separate drive.
However if you have re imported the files then any edits that have been actually saved to the files will be read by LR. You do have to actually write the edits to the files, either by choosing to do this automatically in LR's preferences or by clicking on the update metadata in LR, otherwise these edits are not written to the files (or as xmp files when using propitiatory file types. If you didn't write the changes to file then LR has nothing to read.

Zapping boot drive question

Hello guys,
I have heard recently that I should from time to time (maybe once every two weeks) zapp the Boot drive by pressing and holding apple/option/p/r keys. It apparently organizes the files and make Mac to run smoother and faster (kind of de-fragmentation)
But then I have also heard that this is not recommended unless some problems appear and that it only should be used as a troubleshooting tool.
So which version is actually true?
And also, in case that this method is not recommended as maintenance, what is then recommended method for making system run smooth?
Thank you very much.

Obviously you have been talking with a Windows PC.
First, it's not called zapping the hard drive. It's zapping the PRAM, and it won't do a thing to your hard drive let alone organize your files. Only you can organize your files. It does not defragment the hard drive either. What it does is to clear a small area of RAM in which the operating system permanently stores certain information. This area of RAM is protected by a small internal battery - the PRAM battery - that keeps this reserved area of memory powered so the data stored there is not lost when the computer is turned off.
There is rarely any need to zap the PRAM unless you are having a problem associated with the information stored there. See Mac OS X- What's stored in PRAM.
If you wish to maintain your computer then read the following:
Kappy's Personal Suggestions for OS X Maintenance
For disk repairs use Disk Utility. For situations DU cannot handle the best third-party utilities are: Disk Warrior; DW only fixes problems with the disk directory, but most disk problems are caused by directory corruption; Disk Warrior 4.x is now Intel Mac compatible. TechTool Pro provides additional repair options including file repair and recovery, system diagnostics, and disk defragmentation. TechTool Pro 4.5.1 or higher are Intel Mac compatible; Drive Genius is similar to TechTool Pro in terms of the various repair services provided. Versions 1.5.1 or later are Intel Mac compatible.
OS X performs certain maintenance functions that are scheduled to occur on a daily, weekly, or monthly period. The maintenance scripts run in the early AM only if the computer is turned on 24/7 (no sleep.) If this isn't the case, then an excellent solution is to download and install a shareware utility such as Macaroni, JAW PseudoAnacron, or Anacron that will automate the maintenance activity regardless of whether the computer is turned off or asleep. Dependence upon third-party utilities to run the periodic maintenance scripts had been significantly reduced in Tiger and Leopard.
OS X automatically defrags files less than 20 MBs in size, so unless you have a disk full of very large files there's little need for defragmenting the hard drive. As for virus protection there are few if any such animals affecting OS X. You can protect the computer easily using the freeware Open Source virus protection software ClamXAV. Personally I would avoid most commercial anti-virus software because of their potential for causing problems.
I would also recommend downloading the shareware utility TinkerTool System that you can use for periodic maintenance such as removing old logfiles and archives, clearing caches, etc.
For emergency repairs install the freeware utility Applejack. If you cannot start up in OS X, you may be able to start in single-user mode from which you can run Applejack to do a whole set of repair and maintenance routines from the commandline. Note that AppleJack 1.5 is required for Leopard.
When you install any new system software or updates be sure to repair the hard drive and permissions beforehand. I also recommend booting into safe mode before doing system software updates.
Get an external Firewire drive at least equal in size to the internal hard drive and make (and maintain) a bootable clone/backup. You can make a bootable clone using the Restore option of Disk Utility. You can also make and maintain clones with good backup software. My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):
1. Retrospect Desktop (Commercial - not yet universal binary)
2. Synchronize! Pro X (Commercial)
3. Synk (Backup, Standard, or Pro)
4. Deja Vu (Shareware)
5. Carbon Copy Cloner (Donationware)
6. SuperDuper! (Commercial)
7. Intego Personal Backup (Commercial)
8. Data Backup (Commercial)
The following utilities can also be used for backup, but cannot create bootable clones:
1. Backup (requires a .Mac account with Apple both to get the software and to use it.)
2. Toast
3. Impression
4. arRSync
Apple's Backup is a full backup tool capable of also backing up across multiple media such as CD/DVD. However, it cannot create bootable backups. It is primarily an "archiving" utility as are the other two.
Impression and Toast are disk image based backups, only. Particularly useful if you need to backup to CD/DVD across multiple media.
Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQs on maintenance, optimization, virus protection, and backup and restore.
Additional suggestions will be found in Mac Maintenance Quick Assist.
Referenced software can be found at www.versiontracker.com and www.macupdate.com.

How does TM react to a new boot drive?

I've out grown my boot drive and will be replacing it tomorrow. I'm going to just clone the new drive from my existing. After I do this and get my Mac up and running again will TM recognize the cloned drive as data it already has backed up or will it attempt to back up the entire cloned drive?

BobP1776 posted some very thorough instructions in this thread about how to get Time Machine to recognize its backups after a full restore. They should work if you copy from a clone rather than doing a Time Machine restore. It would also be a good idea to give the new drive the same name as the old one.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1307738

Can I just swap in my new boot drive?

I just carbon copy cloned my 60gb boot drive to a new 320gb drive in the 1st ATA/66 slot. I'm running off the 320gb right now. Can I just flip these 2 drives around so the 320gb is in the 1st ATA/100 slot and the 60 is in the 1st ATA/66 slot. Also, Can I put a drive in the Lower Optical Slot without and extra stuff? I see the Ribbon & Power cables just hanging there. Do I need a bracket of any type?

Thanks for all the input, Currently I have a 60gb Operating Drive, a 120gb filling up the second ATA100. I also have a 160gb waiting to go back in and a new 500gb that just arrived. So what I think I want to do is put the 320 & 500 in the 100 speed slots, with the 320 as OS drive and 500 as Itunes library. Then the 120 & 160 go in the 66 speed slots. That Leaves the 60, which is a bootable drive. I was thinking about putting it under the SuperDrive. But if it's that slow, I may shelf it as an BU OS drive. (I have a 1tb USB drive that I will back everything up to.) Once this is done, it's time to take a look at that Graphics card. Thanks again for all the speedy advice & info.

Switch to new Boot Drive

OK, I have installed a new 1TB HD into my old Mac Pro, cloned my 250MB old boot drive over and slected it in System Preferences and restarted but it still seems to be running on the old drive becaus eit keeps telling me I am out of space. Mac Pro 1,1 running 10.6.8. Waht am I doing wrong???

Wow and I thought this would be easy. I am not sure what kind of clone I did and it is probably not worth trying to figure out. When I open New Boot it tells me I have 750 gb (exactly what I would expect) available but when I look at it in Disc Utility it is telling me I have 999gb available. I am also not sure what you mean by sstretching the partition pane...Ifthere is an easier way to fix this problem I would really like to find it but can't I also just erase the New Boot and clone it correctly again from the old boot which is still in Bay 1 if I have to...

USB Storage Boot Drive question

I'm currently in the process of moving my hard drive over to another due to the current one beginning to fail. I can't seem to mount the LION OX system to a dvd, when I try to move the InstallESD.dmg file to burn it it claims the DVD is full when I know that they are empty. I have a blank USB 2 GB drive. Can I use that as a boot disk or would I still need to use a CD?

Your attempt to make a Lion boot drive will require a larger USB thumb drive. Read this:
http://www.macworld.com/article/1165337/create_a_bootable_lion_install_drive_for _newer_macs.html
Ciao.

SSD/boot drive question

Just installed an SSD, cloned my old HD and boot from it, have a Mac Pro so I kept the old boot HD in the machine as well... question- do I have to relink all the programs that I use on my dock so that they pull from the applications on the SSD and not the old HD? Or since I'm booted up with the SSD it autmatically uses the application on that drive?

It will automatically use applications located at /Applications - which is on whichever drive you are currently booted to.

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