New GL and Profit center settings

hi,
i've already tried to find out this on other thread, but with no reply -
so i am asking again -
does anyone know the correct connection/explanation for the issue below?
"2) Profit Center Integration - With the new GL, Profit Center Accounting is an integrated element of the reporting ledgers. No need for a fully independent PCA implementation."
if a customer is not implementing PCA and indicator in CO Area (OKKP) is not set for PCs, the system still validates PCA because it seems that a year entries with PCA connections in CO area are created by default - entries in table V_TKA00_PC; and "ignoring" Profit center inactive indicator settings within the CO area
ie. cost centers need assignment to PC .. and revenue postings are done to cc as statistical not actual ...
this is happening in sap ecc 5.0 and I would like to verify is this a rule or there is a bug?
thanks in advance
d.

hi Kyle,
thanks for the effort, but it wasn't the thing i asked for ...
what i would like to find out is:
if CO area settings are set w/o profit centers, why the system still demands profit center assignment with cost center master data (ie.)
well, i can always turn off the message, but this isn't the solution i want to use ...
i will rather open one PC (along with dummy, of course) even though those are not used for the customer ... although, this will not solve statistical posting to cc with cost element category 11 ...
d.

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