New MBP -- Wireless Connectivity Inconsistent (Despite MBP's Claims)

Have a new MBP, running 10.5.6 straight out of the box. All essential system updates have been downloaded and installed (one FCE update remains undownloaded). The Airport connection is tenuous -- it will stay connected to the internet for hours at a time, and then go out repeatedly. Every time it goes out, diagnostics claim it is connected, as does the Network dialogue in System Preferences, even when it is impossible to load any web page (or complete system update downloads!).
A few things:
1. At no point does the MBP indicate that it has lost a connection to the wireless network.
2. While internet connection is lost on MBP, I am still able to connect wirelessly with my Powerbook, implying that internet connection/router/ISP is not to blame.
3. I tried entering IP information manually, but to no avail. On a lark, I switched the IP address of the MBP with the PB, but PB continued to be able to connect to internet while MBP struggled.
4. While internet connection via my secure wireless network is lost on MBP, I am able to connect MBP to a nearby unsecured wireless network (presumably a neighbor's). I have purposely not maintained connection to this wireless network for long stretches (though I'm using it now to compose this query), so I don't know that the connectivity issues are absent when connected to it, but I have not experienced any inconsistency when connected to it, even in phases when I am experiencing inconsistency with my secure network.
5. My network is secured by way of a WEP 128-bit hexadecimal password. However, the settings under Network in System Preferences insist on calling it a WEP password, no matter how many times I change it to WEP 128 hex.
6. On a couple of occasions, when experiencing proper connectivity on my secure network, I have tried locking the Network settings in System Preferences. Paradoxically, doing this seems to immediately disconnect me from the internet.
That's all I can think of for now. This problem seems not unrelated to some other problems described in messageboards across the web, but I didn't see anyone outline the problem in the exact way that I've experienced it (nor have I seen a sure-fire solution posted to the problems I have read about).

Folks: *there may be a power/signal issue going on here.* I had a similar problem of my network connection dragging to practically nothing when hooking up my LaCie external drive to the USB port. Please see my post below (link and text)
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9914924#9914924
Folks:
Apple needs to get on this issue fast; after turning off my N mode on my WRT160N Linksys Router, I got my packet speed back up to where it should be... HOWEVER I noticed another problem.
When I hooked up my LaCie external drive (connected via USB), my packets on PING practically stall to nothing. I then eject the external USB drive and re-ping and I get acceptable packet speeds; I re-connect the LaCie external drive to the USB port and my PING crawls to nothing.
There is CLEARLY a correlation between the network speed crawling to nothing while hooking up an external drive; possibly a power sink and/or signal interference on the Airport when hooking up a USB device? (or perhaps even Firewire 800 too?)
I sure hope Apple is reading this one, because this could be a MAJOR issue that needs to be fixed ASAP.

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    Message was edited by: michael louey

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