New to Mac and iphoto

This may seem like a dumb question, but I've learned to ask them anyway. I am a recnet convert from windows - I bought my first mac (imac) and am in the process of learning the system. In transfered my pics from my PC to the photo floder in my "finder". From there, I dragged them into iphoto to organize them and what-not. my question is, are my pics now being stored in association with iphoto, or are they being accessed from the picture folder in the finder. If I delete from iphot, are pics also being deleted from my picture folder? And, if I delete from my picture folder, will pics in iphot also be deleted?
Thanks - any help would be greatly appreciated!
Jim

Jim
There are no dumb question.
Assuming you have not changed the +default settings+ then when you imported the pics into iPhoto it copied them into the Library, and that means you have two copies of the same photos taking up space.
iPhoto will not manage any photos outside it's own Library, so if you delete a photo from iPhoto it deletes the version inside the Library and no version outside of that.
Regards
TD

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