Open a Sales Order on statistical WBS element. How?

Hi,
I tried to open a sales order on a statistical WBS element but the system shows me an error saying I can't open it because the WBS is statistical.
Could it be a problem of Controlling Area or Operating Cornern?
Is there a setting that allow me to open a sales order on statistical WBS element?
Thanks,
Diego

To best of my knowledge, WBS is only a search criteria if u wish u take a doc as ref. in sales order. this ref. will happen only if the previous doc is prepared with ref to WBS. may be at header or item level. but i wonder how will it track the doc if there are multiple WBS in previous doc. u can assign WBS in account assignment tab page.
I wonder if i have helped u with my answer.

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COPA - Multiple Sales Order with one wbs element. COPA does not reference of reference of sales order.
Hi All
Currently we are in process of implementation of project related to Club Service for one of the client.
Concept of this project is - there is "X" company engaged in supporting the different shared services for their client e.g. Client IBM - Shared Support Services of IBM is
u2022     IDM
u2022     Software Installation
u2022     Help Desk
u2022     Maintenance
Co.. "X' is performing these services for IBM.    So for Co. "X" - IBM is one engagement. Like this way Co. X is performing such activities for many companies e.g. microsoft, HP, ABN AMRO etc.
Objective - Get the consolidate report from COPA (Customer wise/services wise/sales order wise e.g. IBM/HelpDesk/10002/10).
We propose a solution to create a project for each engagement and with WBS element. Each WBS element of different services e.g.
Project IBM Inc. 100.100
WBS Element    100.100.IDM
WBS Element    100.100.SoftIns
WBS Element    100.100.HelpDesk
WBS Element    100.100.Maintainance
For this engagement (IBM), we are creating a sales order with line items (for services) and account assignment is WBS element. In a sales order, there may be two lines for one services.   In a particular period, there are many such sales orders for this engagement... Milestone billing/period billing is used depending upon the services rendered.
Now Cost Object will be WBS Element. So cost and revenue will posted to WBS and from this it goes to COPA. In a month of May 2009 two - sales order is booked with three different line items with account assignment is WBS element.
Sales Order Line Item No.....Item                  Account Assignment                      Revenue
10000          100     IDM      100.100.IDM              1000
10000          200     HELPDESK      100.100.HelpDesk              2000
10000          100     Maintenance      100.100.Maintainance         3000
Another Sales order booked with two different line items
10000          100      IDM     100.100.IDM          3000
10000          200      HELPDESK     100.100.HelpDesk          4000
Cost will be booked directly against WBS element.
In sales order level, there is no profitability segment, as cost object is WBS element.
Billing, revenue will be posted directly to wbs element, from this revenue and cost of sales goes to COPA.
Now in COPA,
1.There is only one line for WBS element ex. 100.100.IDM with revenue 4000 (combing both the sales order)
2.There is only one line for WBS element ex. 100.100.HelpDesk with revenue 6000 (combing both the sales order)
3.There is only one line for WBS element ex. 100.100.Maintainance with revenue 4000
In above case 1 & 2 we will not have reference of sales order and sales order line item in COPA table. There is only one line for this. So we can not have reporting to sales order level.
Is there any way by this the reference of sales order and sales order line will come in COPA for case 1 & 2.
Please help in this issue.
Regards
Abhay Dev
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Hi,
For these case (multiple materials with different characteristics); have you consider going to next level of WBS Elements. Meaning; lets say currently you are assigning WBS "Engineering (which is a level 2 WBS)" to all the items in SO. Instead under "Engineering" create 2 or 3 level 3 WBS Elements as E1, E2 etc and assign them 1:1 to your sales order line items. This would eliminate the exit as welll as complex development option. And also will let you get all the data in COPA and in turn you can pull to BW as well for reporting. Just a thought.
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Sreekanth

Sales order assignment to WBS element

Can somebody tell me Where a Sales order is assigned to a WBS element?
I am aware that it is assigned to WBS element Field in Item details>>Account assignment Tab. But in this tab page on Sales Order screen, I am not able to see WBS Element field. I am able to see the WBS element field for FERT items but not for DIEN.
Can somebody tell me where exactly is this done so that I get the WBS element field populated in SO?
Rgds

Hi
Hope the following will fulfill u r requirement
1) What is WBS element?
2) What is the Tcode to get to that screen?
3) What is the need and pupose of WBS element?
4) Do we happen to work on Functional module during our implementaion project? 5) In what scenario/situation we will be working on WBS?
WBS is nothing but Work Breakdown Structure. It is mainly used in Project System (PS) module. Tcode : CJ20N
For any project defined we must have atleast one WBS. Within this WBS we can have networks. Networks are nothing but the series of activities. Material are used to perform the activities.
To explain in detail just consider one example:
Govt of india wants to have Roads to be build through out the india. So Project can be defined in sap as Connectivity.
WBS can be roads within different states like Roads for Gujarat, Karnataka etc.. i.e. WBS Gujarat, WBS Karnataka etc.
We can define different networks for these WBS like Road Between Ahmedabad to Surat or Between Bangalore to Belgham.
For this network we can have many activities like Land selection, Land Preparation, Road Building, Final finishing etc etc.
Hemals example was a good example. Project Systems comes into play only when the industrys business is based on projects like Construction companies, Engineer to Order scenarios. You may not see anyone using PS module for retail business. As Hemal explained in that example, you have a main project which is broken down into WBS elements. You can use the TC CJ20N to create the project and the WBS elements. Each WBS may have mutiple Networks associated and each Network may have multiple Network Activities as explained in the example by Hemal.
On the Sales Order, if your client is implementing PS module, you may have to attach the Sales Order to the WBS element it belongs to. WBS element is nothing but a bucket where all the activities belonging to that particular part of the project are captured. In the example, WBS Gujurat will tell you how many Sales Orders were created for the Gujurat sector, howmuch was spent on raw materials, whats the currect stock ([roject stock) available. How many Production Orders have been confirmed and howmany of them are getting confrmed in the future. How many invoices have been generated or how much revenue has been generated for that particular sector. How many deliveries have been made, what deliverables are still not accomplished.
So as you can see, PS is the center stage for all the modules that are being implemented like FI/CO, SD, MM, PP in this example. You can have cost centers and work centers defined. You can also have profit centers assigned at the plant level and get reports on varius selection criteria.
In a complete cycle of PS, like in reality, you initiate a project, you confirm/release the WBS/activities as per requirement, you execute the project and you close it.
One cannot initiate an activity unless it has been released by the project manager. Everything is accountable here and every dime is counted and at the end you know howmuch did you spend or make on each sector (WBS). Dont get confused with the term sector here I am using it just for the explaination purposes.
In one typical example, the company I was working with until not too long ago, had Deliveries from the Project (TC: CNS0). We never used VL01N. We used CNS0 to create a delivery and then used VL02N for confirming the picking quantity for the already created delivery document.
I hope this should help you at least a bit. Im not a PS consultant so I may not know a whole lot but trying going to CJ20N and you will see a lot yourself.
PS concultants are one of the highest paid consultants. Their supply is less and so is the demand. They are expected to understand real world business processes very well and they are generally the center stage of a project.

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I tried to create a sales order with each line item being associated with a WBS Element based on the material. But when i try to save the document its throwing an error saying that 'WBS element <elt_name> is not a billing element'. What does this mean?
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Hi,
I tried to post a sales order with a statistical WBS element but the system shows me an error saying I can't open it because the WBS is statistical (Message CJ070).
Could it be a problem of Controlling Area or Operating Cornern?
Is there a setting that allow me to open a sales order on statistical WBS element?
Thanks

are u posting to some other cost object also. normally they wud have to be posted to a COPA also with the cost element being 11 category.
the wbs will receive the statistical posting, so there needs to be a real object also.
see whether the real object is getting derived.
the system is nt finding the real object and trying to post with the WBS in real, but since its statistical, the error.
any other calrifications. plz post.
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Part 1 : I released 25000 as budget (CJ32) for a statistical WBS element.
Availability control is active for this WBS element.
We made a good receipt (MIGO) for 20000 on an AUC (asset under
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Pl go through the link below :
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within a customer project, we have to solve the following issue:
Customer runs projects and statistical projects in combination with internal orders.
We want to use the PS Cash Management for planned and actual payments.
With statistical projects we have the following problem:
Invoice and actual payments will be processed with the transaction CJFN.
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see whether the real object is getting derived.
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- Fill in a fixed asset, but also a (statistical) WBS element (put fields 'project' and 'network' optional in customizing)
- execute a MIGO to book costs
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Is this normal or do I have to change something in order to get the costs visible for my statistical WBS element?
kindest regards
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Hi,
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HOWEVER when I do the same steps, but instead of putting a statistical WBS element I put the network (next to the fixed asset) then I do get the costs visible.
Is this normal or do I have to change something in order to get the costs visible for my statistical WBS element?
kindest regards
bert

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