Oracle BPM and Oracle SOA Suite

Hi,
Can anyone point me to a reference which details the differences between the BPM and SOA Suites and how they are different.
As well as why BPM is needed while most of the features are available with SOA Suite itself.
Is the runtime env for BPM and SOA suite same?I mean does BPM run over the SOA Suite installation.
Thanks.

Hi,
My view is SOA Suite is a middleware software that you can use for several purposes...
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23943_01/doc.1111/e10223/index.htm
BPM is a product tailored to run business applications centered around business processes... And yes, IMHO you could do that with SOA Suite itself, but BPM has the facilities out-of-the-box for business process centric applications...
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23943_01/doc.1111/e10223/505_bpm.htm
Is the runtime env for BPM and SOA suite same?I mean does BPM run over the SOA Suite installation.Both run on weblogic and use a soa server... Configuration wizard won't allow to create a domain with BPM Suite if you don't select SOA Suite as well...
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