PA and PSA Inheritance issue from Org Unit

Hi,
I am trying to create an Org Unit with effective from today or a future date. When I do this, PA and PSA is not getting inherited for the newly created Org Unit.
But when I create an Org Unit with effective from past date, this issue is not there and works fine perfectly.
Note: The issue is there in the Development Client as of now. But there is no issue in quality. There was a recent patch that gets updated in Dev system. Not sure whether patch is an issue.
Cheers
Vijay

hi vijay...
would you tell me about your problem in bit details...
i understand that if you create new org unit with existing org unit which already maintained with its PA and PSA assigned in Account Assignment tab then its never occur this problem..but if you create your org unit out side the remaining structure the you must assign PA and PSA for this specific
Regards
Bashir Ahmadani

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I am trying to create an Org Unit with effective from today or a future date. When I do this, PA and PSA is not getting inherited for the newly created Org Unit.
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