Paragraph format import woes...

I may be a bit rusty (almost three years of forced MS Wording, yuck) and a beginner with FM 9, so this may be entirely my own stupidity, but:
I have set up a template document with para styles, master pages etc. When I import the styles into other documents, I noticed that my heading paragraphs lose their autonumbering properties (the box is unticked, building blocks erased) as well as tab presets. Paragraph font properties and master pages on the other hand import fine.
I have tried to circumvent this problem by numerous tricks, e.g. copying text into the template document, erasing all formats before import, removing all formatting from the text before import... Even when I paste plain text into the template the formats suddenly change for no (obvious) reason. I need to focus on translation and have no time to hunt down formatting gremlins - anyone out there with a clue?

Just speculation, but I'll mention it because it caught me out a few times before I got used to it: have you checked "While updating, remove other format/layout overrides"?
Consider two documents that both contain a style :listItem*, where:
:listItem in document B [source] uses the numbering properties
:listItem in document A [target] does not use the numbering properties
I have the impression that when you import definitions from B into A, the difference between the two definitions is seen as a local override in document A and sedulously preserved – unless you select that "Remove overrides" checkbox
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* the name is of course arbitrary; or to quote the greatest manual of all time
DVCF comes in two flavors: vanilla and mocha [44]
[44] These names have no technical significance.

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> How can I move paragraph formats from one document to a new one?
Have both open.
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I'm working on an FAPI client to translate text in Frame Documents. One of the first things we do is store the formatting for each paragraph,
and then write it back out to the translated document.
However, in one document I'm working on, when my client attempts to get a handle
for one particular paragraph format, it gets a null a handle instead and that formatting is not applied. Instead, formatting from the previous paragraph (namely an obnoxious green font colour!) is being applied.
In order to set the translated text into the document, we delete the content that was originally there. Could that have a role to play?
I notice that before and after translation, the paragraph format in question is not contained in the paragraph format catalogue.
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Eric,
I think the answer you are looking for is yes, there can be "formats" in the document that are not in the catalog. However, they aren't really formats at all, because if they were, they would be in the catalog. From an API perspective, all they are is a string property assigned to a paragraph.
With the FDK, format usage can be confusing. You might think that you can just set the FP_Name property for an FO_Pgf object to apply a format, but that is really nothing more than a string that is used for reference later, either by you (the programmer) or the interface (the GUI). To apply a format, you have to find the format object (FO_PgfFmt) itself, capture its settings, then apply them to the FO_Pgf (I gather you know this already). It's important to remember, though, that you aren't really creating any kind of link between the format object and the paragraph; rather, you are just transfering the settings from one to another. Incidentally, both types of objects have an FP_Name property, so when you transfer the properties from the format to the pgf, that name gets transferred as well. This presents the illusion that there is some intrinsic link between the two afterwards, but it really was nothing but a string property transfer.
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I need a way to round-trip paragraph format tags. I know it is easy to assign them on import with the EDD, but I'm not sure how to save them on export.
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Paul_RS wrote:
When I pull down the menu of paragraph formats I see a HUGE number of them scrolling down beyond my screen. God forbid I should ever have to choose one that begins with a letter late in the alphabet. Help files mention a catalog window but I have looked everywhere for this mythical thing and can't find it. If I do find this catalog, can I delete all the tags I don't need for this one document without losing them permanently for all documents? Can I set preferences to have new documents list just a few of my favorites without dealing with this enormous cumbersome list every time?
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Paul
Hi, Paul:
Paragraph, character, and table format definitions are stored in each file.
To delete formats from the paragraph or character format catalog, open the catalog with Format > Paragraphs > Catalog, or Format > Characters > Catalog, click Delete** to open the deletion dialog box, select a format by clicking a visible format name, by navigating through the list with arrow keys, or by typing the initial letter of a format's name. Repeatedly typing the same initial moves through the formats that begin with that letter. Click Delete to "nominate" the selected format for deletion. You can't select multiple formats in the list by Shift+Click or Ctrl+Click. Click Done to perform the actual deletion, or Cancel if you change your mind.
An alternate way to open the format deletion dialog box is by clicking the Delete option that appears by clicking the Commands button in the Paragraph, Character, and Table designers.
To assure that you don't lose formats you may want to use at another time, save a copy of the file with a descriptive name, such as "AllFormatsInTheKnownUniverse.fm." You can delete all the content to unclutter the file, without losing the formats. You can import formats from one file to another, or from one file to multiple files in a book. Search Google for "framemaker import formats" without quotes for information at Adobe forums, in FrameMaker Help, and from other sources.
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Better and safer than Create and Apply Formats are the excellent inexpensive tools for maintaining paragraph and character format catalogs from siliconprairiesoftware.com.
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