Patching dual stacks ABAP + JAVA simultaneously

Hi,
I would like to know if I can patch ABAP and JAVA on a dual stack system at the same time. According to the patching document I can run an SGEN when the JSPM is running but it does not tell me why I can not patch a dual stack system simultaneously. I have discovered that the JSPM restarts the dispatcher in order to update itself. After this initial step the ABAP stack should remain available providing the kernel has been manually updated.
Does anyone have any advice on this?
Thanks,
James

Hi,
I had a similar case where I had to install a java stack for an already existing CRM system running on Windows/SQL Server.
I installed a different SID for Java on the same host and I installed the Java database as a second database in the same SQL server engine.
Therefore I shared the hardware resources but still had 2 separate stacks as best practice.
Regards,
Olivier

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         shared lib "dw_mdm.dll" version 311 successfully loaded
    rdisp/softcancel_sequence :  -> 0,5,-1
    use internal message server connection to port 3900
    Sun Jul 24 03:14:40 2011
    *** WARNING => DpNetCheck: NiAddrToHost(1.0.0.0) took 5 seconds
    ***LOG GZZ=> 1 possible network problems detected - check tracefile and adjust the DNS settings [dpxxtool2.c  5530]
    MtxInit: 30000 0 0
    DpSysAdmExtInit: ABAP is active
    DpSysAdmExtInit: VMC (JAVA VM in WP) is not active
    DpIPCInit2: start server >SRVSIAPP04_DEV_00                       <
    DpShMCreate: sizeof(wp_adm)          29792     (1752)
    DpShMCreate: sizeof(tm_adm)          5912704     (29416)
    DpShMCreate: sizeof(wp_ca_adm)          24064     (80)
    DpShMCreate: sizeof(appc_ca_adm)     8000     (80)
    DpCommTableSize: max/headSize/ftSize/tableSize=500/16/552064/552080
    DpShMCreate: sizeof(comm_adm)          552080     (1088)
    DpSlockTableSize: max/headSize/ftSize/fiSize/tableSize=0/0/0/0/0
    DpShMCreate: sizeof(slock_adm)          0     (104)
    DpFileTableSize: max/headSize/ftSize/tableSize=0/0/0/0
    DpShMCreate: sizeof(file_adm)          0     (72)
    DpShMCreate: sizeof(vmc_adm)          0     (1864)
    DpShMCreate: sizeof(wall_adm)          (41664/36752/64/192)
    DpShMCreate: sizeof(gw_adm)     48
    DpShMCreate: SHM_DP_ADM_KEY          (addr: 0000000011AB0050, size: 6614288)
    DpShMCreate: allocated sys_adm at 0000000011AB0050
    DpShMCreate: allocated wp_adm at 0000000011AB22A0
    DpShMCreate: allocated tm_adm_list at 0000000011AB9700
    DpShMCreate: allocated tm_adm at 0000000011AB9760
    DpShMCreate: allocated wp_ca_adm at 000000001205CFE0
    DpShMCreate: allocated appc_ca_adm at 0000000012062DE0
    DpShMCreate: allocated comm_adm at 0000000012064D20
    DpShMCreate: system runs without slock table
    DpShMCreate: system runs without file table
    DpShMCreate: allocated vmc_adm_list at 00000000120EB9B0
    DpShMCreate: allocated gw_adm at 00000000120EBA30
    DpShMCreate: system runs without vmc_adm
    DpShMCreate: allocated ca_info at 00000000120EBA60
    DpShMCreate: allocated wall_adm at 00000000120EBAD0
    MBUF state OFF
    DpCommInitTable: init table for 500 entries
    DpRqQInit: Parameter rdisp/queue_lock_level = 2
    rdisp/queue_size_check_value :  -> on,50,30,40,500,50,500,80
    ThTaskStatus: rdisp/reset_online_during_debug 0
    EmInit: MmSetImplementation( 2 ).
    MM global diagnostic options set: 0
    <ES> client 0 initializing ....
    <ES> InitFreeList
    <ES> block size is 4096 kByte.
    <ES> Info: em/initial_size_MB( 8191MB) not multiple of em/blocksize_KB( 4096KB)
    <ES> Info: em/initial_size_MB rounded up to 8192MB
    Using implementation view
    <EsNT> Using memory model view.
    <EsNT> Memory Reset disabled as NT default
    <ES> 2047 blocks reserved for free list.
    ES initialized.
    mm.dump: set maximum dump mem to 96 MB
    Sun Jul 24 03:14:41 2011
    J2EE server info
      start = TRUE
      state = STARTED
      pid = 2776
      argv[0] = E:\usr\sap\DEV\DVEBMGS00\exe\jcontrol.EXE
      argv[1] = E:\usr\sap\DEV\DVEBMGS00\exe\jcontrol.EXE
      argv[2] = pf=E:\usr\sap\DEV\SYS\profile\DEV_DVEBMGS00_SRVSIAPP04
      argv[3] = -DSAPSTART=1
      argv[4] = -DCONNECT_PORT=65000
      argv[5] = -DSAPSYSTEM=00
      argv[6] = -DSAPSYSTEMNAME=DEV
      argv[7] = -DSAPMYNAME=SRVSIAPP04_DEV_00
      argv[8] = -DSAPPROFILE=E:\usr\sap\DEV\SYS\profile\DEV_DVEBMGS00_SRVSIAPP04
      argv[9] = -DFRFC_FALLBACK=ON
      argv[10] = -DFRFC_FALLBACK_HOST=localhost
      start_lazy = 0
      start_control = SAP J2EE startup framework

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