PCA for Full Balance Sheet Accounting

Dear SAP Guru,
We're currently in 4.7. We've implemented PCA for Profit and Loss Accounting. There's business requirement to produce Full Balance Sheet Accounting in PCA, i.e. the one similar to Business Area. Can the standard PCA module (in 4.7) support Full Balance Sheet Accounting? If can, what are the settings and steps that need to be configured in the system? Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Hello,
you can get the full balance sheet from PCA.
The steps are:
1. You must make sure that you have completed financial statement version (OB58).
2. Copy this account groups to PCA. (Please check the paths to copy the FSV to your PCA.
3. See the available reports in KE80. One of the report must suit your requirement.
4. If they are not suitable to your requirement, create your own balance sheet format (using form and report) - Report painter.
Hope this helps you.
Regards,
Ravi

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Edited by: Thomas Sablonski on Jul 23, 2008 5:46 PM
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Note 155317 - G/L a/c:change bal.sheet->P+L despite OI management Note Language:   Version: 4 Validity: valid since 14.09.2000
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Content: Summary | Header Data | Releases | Support Packages | Correction Instructions
Summary
Symptom
You can change the control of a G/L account from a balance sheet account to a P&L account, although the account is set to open item management in at least one company code.
Additional key words
SAPMF02H, FS02, FSP2, FH017
Cause and prerequisites
This is caused by a program error.
The corresponding check was not carried out if you did not branch to the screen of the company code data when making changes.
Solution
The error is corrected as of Release 4.6.
You can make the advance corrections.
Header Data
Release Status: Released for Customer
Released on: 13.09.2000 22:00:00
Master Language: German
Priority: Correction with medium priority
Category: Program error
Primary Component: FI-GL-GL-N Master Data
Affected Releases
Software
Component Release From
Release To
Release And
subsequent
SAP_APPL 30 300 31I
SAP_APPL 40 40A 40B
SAP_APPL 45 45A 45B
Correction delivered in Support Package
Support
Packages Release Package
Name
SAP_APPL 31I SAPKH31I27
SAP_APPL 40B SAPKH40B20
SAP_APPL 45B SAPKH45B03
SAP_HR 31I SAPKE31I27
SAP_HR 40B SAPKE40B20
Corrections Instructions
Correction
Instruction Valid
from Valid
to Software
Component Last
Modifcation
97629 45B 45B SAP_APPL 14.09.2000 08:26:11
97661 300 40B SAP_APPL 14.09.2000 08:28:04

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