PDF export size in Pixels

Before, when I exported a PDF from an Illustrator document, the page of the exported PDF would be the same size in pixels as the Illustrator artboard.
Now, for some reason the exported PDFs are bigger than the artboard size. This is consistent now....but it didn't happen before formatting and reinstalling OS,
I've tried creating the projects again, with the same result...
Is there any special setting in the PDF export options?
TIA

Doh.... it's an option in "Preview".

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