Phone line and infinity
Hi all
Please excuse this question as to some it may be glaringly obvious, but I have been interested about Infinity and VDSL on a phone line.
Scenario: Customer lives 2km from the exchange. New FTTC cabinet is installed 100m from the customer.
This means that the VDSL signal only has to travel the last 100m (or thereabouts) to the customer.
It would not be good to "energise" the whole 2km of cable with the VDSL signal so is there some kind of filter to stop the VDSL signal going back up the 1900m "pair" to the exchange?
Thanks
ptan
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The way I understand it, and the most efficient way too, is:
From the exchange, an optical fibre bundle runs to the cabinet. This transports both broadband and voice service - it's got enough bandwidth for everything and then some.
From the cabinet, copper twisted pair wires run to every house serve by that cabinet. There is a DSLAM in the cabinet which interfaces between the optical fiber to the exchange and the copper to the house, for the VDSL2 service.
So the VDSL2 is from each house to the cabinet, and from the cabinet an optical fibre bundle runs to the exchange. Meaning there is no more a live copper wire connection from exchange to cabinet - this would be redundant.
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