Placing tiffs

The two images below are identical but were placed on the layout differently.
The left was placed and then the alpha channel used via the clipping path
The right was placed with the alpha channel selected in show import options.
Is there a way to get the left image to look like the right image after placing or is show import options the only way to do it?

"i need to know how to apply the alpha channel after placing it so it appears exactly as it does on the right (which was done with show import options selected... if that makes sense."
perhaps I misunderstood your question (the answer below is the best I can do)
you need to get to the Import Options dialog box again… and the easiest way to do that is to relink the image to itself. That is, select the image in the Links panel, click Relink, turn on the Show Import Options checkbox, then choose again from the Alpha Channel pop-up menu.
source:
http://indesignsecrets.com/choosing-a-different-transparency-alpha-channel-for-an-image.ph p
good luck--am out

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M,
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haha, it's not an easy one to describe.
So when checking the TIFF initially, it is a flat locked image: (image below)
when placed into Illustrator CS2 and outputting a PDF, I get this correct result: (image below)
When placed into illustrator CS6 and output to PDF I get this incorrect result: (image below)
Close up detailing masking effect: (image below)
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However, in illustrator there is nothing I can release anywhere as it still treats it as a flat image: (image below)

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Thank you. I'm not sure I'm responding to the forum correctly. I can
only respond through the email, can't find the Forum instructions on
line, and can't upload an image.
I checked the image modes in Photoshop. The PS files are not bitmap,
they are all grayscale. I use grayscale because I sometimes have to
colorize the black and white line drawing to a color, that can't happen
with RGB or CMYK.
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print, then high-pressure laminated to a product similar to Formica. The
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understand it, a bitmap of ink line art needs to be 1200dpi, and at that
size it would be just huge.
In response to Doug's comment about how about combining all the "bitmap
work in PS and place the composite in AI as a single linked image".
Right now, with the client shifting the images around so, it's easier to
build the AI document with all the smaller vignettes as tiffs (which was
working up until this afternoon!). But I could consider combining it all
in PS, unless there was some layering issues. Like a giant puzzle piece.
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It says "the selection contains objects which cannot be distorted"...:(
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