Position of eps-files in anchored frame

Hello, I'm sorry but the subject was too large to put it in the subject-field.
Subject:
position of eps-files (Mac Os 9, Illustrator 9.0, preview tiff black/white)
is not correct after saving eps-files (preview macintosh black/white)
I want to upgrade from Apple Mac 9.0 to PC. All my Framemaker-files (6.0)
must be translated to Framemaker 8.0 (PC-version).
When I open the old Framemaker files, there is only a problem with the
graphics (read: the preview of the graphics in Framemaker 8.0). The result
is: grey boxes in the anchored frames. I thought when I save the old
eps-files (Illustrator 9 for Mac, preview Macintosh Black+white) to
eps-files with TIFF preview, that the problem will be solved. When I open
the framemaker-files on PC, then there are a few graphics correct
(Framemaker displays all the graphics correct on pc). But, there are a lot
of graphics in anchored frames who lost their right coordinates in the
anchored frame (example: the x-position of a graphic is -25 cm en the
y-position of a graphic is 7.9 cm). Result: I cannot see a graphic in the
anchored frame because the coordinates were changed and because their are
outside the frame (their are in the frame, but the graphic is outside the
border of the anchored frame).
When I use the old eps-files then the position is correct, but there is no
preview available of the graphic in Framemaker 8 (in Framemaker 6.0 for
Mac, there is a preview of the graphic).
Are there people who has this problem too in the past? Who can give me
suggestions to solve this problem or give me other tips to solve this
problem.

Hi Jesse
I'm afraid we probably can't help much. I asked our guy and he said:
I thought that issue had more to do with upgrading Adobe Illustrator. When you save an EPS it includes a BoundingBox comment that defines the area of the page that the figure occupies in the artwork:
%%BoundingBox: LLx LLy URx URy
LLx and LLy are the coordinates of the lower left corner of the figure. URx and URy are the coordinates of the upper right corner of the figure.
When FrameMaker imports an EPS it reads the BoundingBox comment to get the size and position of the figure on the page, and therefore to compute the translation and scaling required in the PostScript output to put the figure where you want it.
The impression I got was that when you updated the EPS figure FrameMaker didn't always refresh the BoundingBox info.
The later version of Illustrator seemed to save files with a different BoundingBox. As a result there was a mis-match between the actual BoundingBox and what FrameMaker recorded.
The solution for us was to simply re-import the figure. I never wrote a script to solve that problem.

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