Possible bug during logout with Time Machine and File Vault enabled?

I have File Vault enabled on my machines so when I logout from them they do a backup to my Time Capsule.
*I don't login as root!*
Yesterday when I logged of everything was normal in the beginning.
All windows were closed and the progressbar showed up with the backup. Approx: halvway in the backup the finder was showned again.
See image: http://www.liajnad.se/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/leopard-logout.jpg
I couldnt open o terminal window as root but I was able to browse around in the filesystem as root even though I hadn't login as root.
Anyone else seen this problem?

Just to clarify, the new finder that was started had *root privilegies!*

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