Power Mac G5 being a pain in the behind

So, I've got my Power Mac G5 here, Dual 2 GHz, 2 gigs of ram, and it just hates me. The problem now is that with the air deflector shield in place the front 2 fans for the processor are running at full power but without the air deflector shield they barley turn to the point where processor 0 gets so hot you could probably just stick some corn wrapped in foil in there, stick the side on it, wait 15 minutes and have a snack.
I don't have a hardware test disk so I can't test this (I got it with no drives and mismatching ram) and I contacted the local apple repair guy and he said it would cost between $200-500 to fix it and if I had that much I would go on Craigslist and buy a second hand Mac Mini or something newer than a PPC mac.

512 Mb of DDR400 ram
400 MHz DDR PC3200
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2248?viewlocale=en_us
Now, it's using the ECC part of the ram
It cannot use the "ECC part" without a compatible memory controller.
You can say that the machine is running with ECC RAM installed, but you cannot say that the ECC is being used and supported.
Halfway through the Mac OS install it froze and all the fans went back up to full speed.
Did it pass calibration?
Do both CPUs report?
I would want at least one pair of known good, properly specified Mac compatible RAM installed in the machine before further testing.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Memory.pdf

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