Powermac G5 can't run leopard 10.5.x

I have a PM g5 dual 2.0. I am running 10.4.11 fine no problems. I have tried many times to install leopard 10.5 from 2 different black label family pack discs.
The install freezes at select destination disk. Both disks. Put g5 in target mode and installed 10.5. Booted in 10.5 and get freezes. Some quickley some after 2-15 minutes. I want to run imovie 09 which needs 10.5. I have done everything I know to solve the problem. If you have any advice it is appreciated. Thanks
Things I have done to solve the problem.
Unhooked everything but what came with the mac which is a june 2004 pm g5 2.0 dual
changed ram to different slots being careful to keep in pairs, removed all but apple ram,removed apple ram and installed crucial ram, reset pram,reset pmu, tried install on original harddrive. Erased and reformated orginal hard drive. Tried new reformatted hard drive. ran apple hardware test. all passed. tried to run the 10.5 hard drive externally via firewire
took to an apple authorized repair business (not apple store) They reinstalled 10.5 and updated to all but the newest update. They ran a more intensive
hardware testing. There results were all passed but 2 freezes in 60 hours of continous video loops, I’ve tried different hard drives new and old,used disk utility
to repair permissions and verify disk even took an ohm meter to see if the pram battery still has the proper voltage, it does
Why will 10.4.11 run with no problems ( safari,mail,keynote,imovie 08,photoshop elements 6, many other non apple apps)
And 10.5 freezes sometimes quickly sometimes after a few minutes. when the freeze happens i just get a mouse freeze and cant do anything. No fans come on.
Once I booted into 10.5 and made it to the activity monitor and saw that a root item called mdworker was using a lot of processer power. Maybe thats a clue.
Any help would be great. Thanks

It may be freezing because 10.5.x is more graphics intensive than earlier versions and the graphics card is overheating. Does your Mac's graphics card have a fan on it and if so is it spinning? Is the card clear and free of dust? Have the exhaust and intake vents been cleaned lately?
How are you formatting both the hard drive and partition(s)?
IIRC mdworker has to do with Spotlight.

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I am the only one that will use the Mac and my user account is as the 'admin'.
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For 'X11', I have to force quit.
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But you have it running in the other account. With X11 problems, this is as easy as it gets.
I hope this problem can be solved soon...
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I see, thanks for the info.! (I am new to the Mac since 2009 )
The only one that would cause any problem by being removed is ".Trash". You don't have any of the other files that Bob is talking about. It would be annoying for any heavy Terminal user to lose those dot files, but perfectly safe.
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+WARNING: Improper use of the sudo command could lead to data loss+
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+typing when using sudo. Type "man sudo" for more information.+
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Password:
+Sorry, try again.+
Password:
_+rm: .fontconfig: is a directory+_
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_+rm: .fontconfig: is a directory+_
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+Michael-Leungs-MacBook:/ Michael$ +
So, for the steps you provided, I can follow all the steps except the one '.fontconfig'
Hope the information I provided above can help you to help me!
Thank you etresoft!

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I solved this one based on another post. Turned out I needed the snow leopard IP5000 driver. I had just copied over the leopard driver (I had saved my .dmg file) and installed that but it didn't work. So I downloaded the latest driver which turned out to be for snow leopard and I am guessing since it is 64bit that is why it worked and the leopard driver didn't. Anyway, I also had to hook the printer up via usb to the mac mini to get it to work locally before the O/S would see it over Bonjour via the airport extreme.

Does anyone know what is the best version of word I can have on my older mac mini 10.5.8 PPC? I am running Leopard. Does anyone have it or know where I can get it please?

Does anyone know what is the best version of word I can have on my older mac mini 10.5.8 PPC? I am running Leopard. Does anyone have it or know where I can get it please?

I agree with Grant. But to answer your question, that would be Word 2008. A quick search turns it up on sale at Amazon. You'll need to find it somewhere other than Microsoft itself, since MS stopped selling it when they released Word 2011.
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Office-2008-Mac-Version/dp/B000WR2F2M

Can I run hardware test and repair a disk with Leopard using 10.3 DVD

Hi,
I'm trying to decide whether to partition and clone Leopard to my external or partition and install Tiger on the external.
My iMac came with 10.3.6 install and hardware test DVD's and they (Comp USA) gave me a Tiger drop-in DVD. I upgraded to Leopard through a family pack DVD (when I told my friend I would by one of the install's I thought I would get a DVD, but you only get an install license, oh well). By the way, Leopard runs great in my rev A iMac G5.
I'm trying to figure out which os to use on the external as a safe-boot incase something happens. If I clone Leopard onto a partition for backup/boot, can I still use the Disc Repair (not permissions) and Hardware Test from the 10.3 or Tiger DVD's to maintain that permission should something bad happen? The way I see it, i'll be able to repair permissions on both the main and external drives using Leopard's disc utility, but I'm not sure if I can repair a Leopard disk or do Hardware Test on that disc using an earlier version of OSX install/Hardware Test DVD's.
Will earlier versions of OSX repair a Leopard disk and be able run Hardware Test?
Thanks for the help,
LowBb
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Yes, that seems to be the case, but I didn't do good enough research when he asked if I wanted a license for Leopard. For some reason, I had it in my mind that a Family pack came with multi DVD's for people. Maybe that's why he sold me a license so cheap. I thought I was getting a bargin, you get what you pay for.
So, I have the hardware test DVD's that came with the iMac and the Tiger drop-in is just an upgrade with no Hardware Test, you are correct.
But: (let me make sure I have this right) I should not use the 10.3 DVD's or the Tiger drop-in to repair a disc (not permissions) on a hard drive running Leopard. Is this what you are saying? I kind of thought this would be the case. If it is, I'm going to install MY stuff that I have the DVD's for on the external as an emergency boot disc.

How can i run snow leopard and leopard in my mac?

how can i run snow leopard and leopard in my mac?

First, your Mac model must be able to run Leopard. Second, you would have to partition your hard drive to create a second volume then install Leopard on the new volume using a Leopard installer DVD.

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