Problem Monitor and print different colours

As a newbie to colour management and my monitor showing one shade? of colour and the print another, I have bought Spyder express 2 suite to try and bring to two together I am using photoshop 7 and XP.
My printers are an Epson R200 & R2400
In the color settings window in photoshop currently are a custom setup working spaces spaces RGB 1998; euroscale coated; gray gamma 2.2 and dot gain 20%
Color management all set to preserve embedded profiles
Are these settings an acceptable starting point or are their better settings
Sorry if this question is to basic but I would like to reach the bottom rung on the ladder to what you see is what you get
Thanks in advance
DaveH

What print settings are you using?
Set the Espon to 'let photoshop manage colour ' and scroll the printer profile down to either stylus photo R200 or stylus photo R2400 . This give better results when using canned profiles.
I have custom printer profiles for my 3800 and the colours are now spot on when they previously had a nasty magenta bias.
If that fails - try ' let printer manage colours ' and do a test print with various colour changes within the driver.

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hi you all,
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I'm not sure why, but my original post came through blank. Here is a
second attempt:
> Often, the pages that will not print, when viewed at a normal
magnification, appear as very
> small thumbnails that look like the dotted line down a black highway.
The rest of the pages
> are at a normal magnification and can be read.
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anything but a wild guess. But I seem to recall many years ago that
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