Processor from Dual 450 Gigaethernet to 400 single AGP Graphics compatabil

Can I put the duel 450 processors into single 400 mhz 100bus AGP Graphics G4?
I have another older and smaller mac and want to know if, after uprading my Giga-ethernet G4 (100mhz bus) whether the processors from it can be fitted to the AGP Graphics machine?
It has 1.12 gb ram
Machine model is Powermac 3.1
CPU type is Powerpc G4 (2.6)
20 gig hard drive
Any ideas?

Hi
I guess one option may be to upgrade the processor in the AGP Graphics machine instead. You could always swap some RAM and the hard drives etc between the two to make it your 'main' computer. As far as I'm aware the only advantages of the Gigabit Ethernet (other than gigabit ethernet and the fact they're slightly newer) are that some models came with dual processors and I think it also supports graphics cards with an ADC connector (unlike the AGP Graphics).

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Fit Dual 450 mother board in 400 AGP?

Hi I want to fit a Dual 450 mother board into a AGP 400 mhz, I have noticed that the 450 Mother board has a twenty two pin connector and the 400 only a twenty hole connector.
The connector physically fits the socket via the guide slot but leaves the two first holes empty.
I presume these are the logic board feeds, can they be "jumped", if so from which pin to which pin?
Thanks in advance
Robert

Hi-
There are a couple of differences besides the number of pins. There is also a 28v feed in the GE. The problem in the conversion is the 28v. The Sawtooth PSU has no provisions for providing such.
You can get a 24 pin adapter at a PC store, and mod the wiring to convert the 20 to the 22 pin scheme, and then you can add a 28v "wall wart" to provide the 28v feed.
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So i just received a pair of old G4 towers. They're both AGP Graphics 400mhz machines, and i'm thinking of upgrading the processors on both. From what i understand from reading through the forums, they can take an OEM processor from some of the newer G4 towers. I've checked, and both machines have Uni-North numbers greater than 7 (one is 7, the other is 8), so they both can accept dual processors. Trying to weigh my options and decide what's best, taking into consideration that the bus on the AGP machine is only 100mhz compared to 133/167mhz bus on the faster processors...
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2. Dual 500mhz processor (will run true @ 1ghz due to the 100mhz bus on the AGP machine)
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But, this is a plug and play upgrade, and a nice improvement over a single 400 MHz processor.
2. Dual 1ghz/800mhz Processor (will run underclocked)
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Good day all!
I would like to upgrade the dual 450 processor in my G4(Gigabit Ethernet) to at least a dual 1gig. I know the MDD's don't/can't work, but what about other used apple processors (ie. quicksilver or the like)?
I would like to keep the parts apple and although they are more rare than the MDD's they still pop up now and again.
Are there any issues/limitations?
Many Thanks,
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Hi
The CPU upgrades database at www.xlr8yourmac.com is a useful place to look for information on processor upgrades. If you select Apple for the card manufacturer, you'll see reports from people who have used processor daughter cards pulled from other Macs.
Like you say, processor cards pulled from a MDD or FW800 won't work due to architectural differences such as the use of DDR RAM.
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Fourthly I have a feeling any level 3 cache may not be recognised, as the Gigabit Ethernets and Quicksilvers shipped with different G4 variants.
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http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/accelerators/
http://www.gigadesigns.com/
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/cpu_upgrades.html
http://fastmac.com/

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I'm finally about to take the plunge and get a new mac pro, putting my old G4 out to graze.
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I am actually confessing to being a windows studying pc engineer, but am also interested in macs.
My sister has just purchased the G4, 450 Mhz, (dual) i am confused on a few things and am trying to help her!
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Is the processor slot the same for the larger Mhz upgrades? if so, which are the best processors to use?
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Hi-
Welcome to Discussions!
Sounds like you are dealing with a Gigabit Ethernet model of G4, equipped with dual 450mhz processors. It was a monster in it's day, and still has good use left in it. Problem is, 450mhz, even dual, isn't much by current software requirements.
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermacg4/stats/powermac_g4_450dp.html
As for Logic- version 7 would be usable on the machine as is. There is no problem with installing version 8 on the same system. It would be nice for her to be able to get the proper "key" to be able to use v.7. It would definitely be worth pursuing the issue with the seller.
And, as you know, to use v.8, you need more processor. Processors are a relatively easy upgrade. There are many options available, as well. One of the best buys (performance for the money) are 7455 based single processor upgrades from OWC or Fastmac:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/MEG42M1500/
http://store.fastmac.com/advancedsearchresult.php?keywords=agp
The following are all compatible with the dual 450 G4:
http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upgrades.cfm?model=158&type=Processor&TI=4655&sh oupgrds=Show+Upgrades
You can check an installation video from the following:
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ATI/Radeon 9800 Pro 128 AGP 4x/2x in Gigabit Ethernet dual 450 PMac G4

Hi,
This is my first time posting to these discussion group... I've been going through related threads and have not found an answer to my problem...
I have a Gigabit Ethernet dual 450 G4. Awhile ago I upgraded the processor to a Sonnet 1.8ghz so I could run Leopard.
I just bough the ATI/Radeon 9800 Pro 128 AGP 4x/2x video card. I researched around and that seemed to be a card that would work in my machine. I even read a review on Amazon where someone had also upgraded to the 1.8 processor used this card with no issues.
I do have an older monitor - Apple Studio Display CRT with the ADC connector. So I also bought the Apple DVI to ADC adapter kit.
I installed the card and do not get any picture at all - I believe I have installed everything correctly. I'm pretty sure I can hear the fan on the video card in the machine. The monitor is getting power from the adapter since the button lights up when I press it - but it does not stay lit -- the monitor never turns on. Using my old graphics card the monitor makes a little "beep" when it turns on.
In reading the other topics I am wondering if it might be a power issue? According to Other World Computing's profile my machine has a max of 220 watts. Although they suggest this video card as one the will work in my machine.
I have disabled the hard drive that came with the machine (too small) and am using two Maxtor hard drives that I added - one ATA (120gb) and one SATA (500gb) that is connected to an SATA pci card. I also have two additional pci cards with usb 2.0/firewire ports.
In looking at the topics here I came across the link about taping the 3 and 11 pins on the video card. Even though the card I have is 4x/2x not 8x I thought I'd give it a shot. That did not work either.
Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

I don't wish to sound redundant here, but I've been reviewing the vendor's page:
It's OK- I don't mind beating this dead horse....
The maker says such to protect themselves from possible claims that may arise due to over loaded systems and power problems when their card is installed in said system.
Of course, 300w would be nice, but they didn't even specify the PSU rating a couple years ago. The Sawtooth, with it's 237w PSU, used to be listed as a compatible machine for the 9800...... They just didn't consider how far a Sawtooth might be modded.
Within reason, the early G4's (Sawtooths) are capable of using the Radeon 9800 Pro. The GE has the same 338w PSU as the DA (they are interchangeable), so there is plenty of power for the 9800.
One thing to remember, the requirements of the ADC port of the AGP slot are removed by using a non ADC card. This really changes the calculations of the power available.
It's kinda' a long post, but, if you care to get ALL the details, check the following:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7065653&#7065653
I think you'll be satisfied with the explanation.......
Which leaves your second, and very appropriate, point.
The main enemy of all, though, isn't power. Heat is the biggest concern.
Reducing heat/increasing cooling by using a third party fan on the 9800 is highly recommended. The 9800 is a hot card, and the stock fan is prone to early failure.
Adding additional cooling to remove the extra heat produced by the 9800, by using an exausting PCI fan, will also help the PSU provide adequate voltage to the system, by reducing the amount of hot air moving out of the PSU.
Super heated air moving through the PSU reduces the cooling ability of the PSU. A hot PSU doesn't produce reliable power.
So, add the 9800, add some cooling, and enjoy!

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thanks

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My graphics needs are very simple so I want the least expensive card I can get that will handle the 20" display, and this one seems to be it. Also, is there anything else (adapter?) that I'll need?
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The display you describe is a DVI display.
From where are you getting the graphics card?
If the ATI Radeon 7500 card you are looking at has no mention of Mac specifications, then it is probably not the Mac edition, more likely a PC edition.
Only Mac edition cards, or PC edition cards that have been "flashed" with a Mac ROM, will work in a Mac. As "flashing" is an after market modification, you are relying on the technical expertise of the "flasher" to give you a functional card.
The true Mac edition ATI Radeon 7500 is an OEM card (so is not generally available "off the shelf"):
http://www.ati.com/products/radeon7500/radeon7500me/specs.html
It has VGA and ADC output. You would have to get an ADC to DVI adaptor to be able to use the DVI display. Here's an example of an adaptor:
http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?code=0123-ADE2
Given all the things I have just pointed out, it would probably be more appropriate for you to get the ATI Radeon 8500 Mac Edition (if you can find one, they are a bit rare). Howwever, it has DVI output, so you can hook the display straight in.
If you can't find the 8500, the next most available card would be the ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition, but it has VGA and ADC output, so you would have to use the adaptor that I mentioned before.
Cheers!
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New internal drive for Dual 450

I am looking to add an additional, or replacement internal HD for my old Dual 450 G4. Can anyone tell me which one to get? I am utilizing the machine as a storage and archive device on a local network.
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Hi, J2, and welcome to the Discussions!
Your Mac's native drive bus will only recognize the first 128GB of formatted space on any size drive you install on the ribbon cable connected to the logic board, so look for a 120GB or smaller drive if you don't intend to purchase and install a PCI card to overcome this size limitation.
If you intend to connect the drive directly to the built-in bus as above, look for a 3.5 inch ATA (not SATA or SCSI) drive which runs at 7200 RPM, preferably with an 8MB buffer, versus a 2MB buffer, which is somewhat slower.
An ATA drive might be described as Ultra-ATA 133, IDE, EIDE, ATA 100, PATA, or parallel ATA. For shopping purposes, all of these terms basically refer to the same thing, so don't let them confuse you.
The major brands are Seagate, Maxtor, Western Digital, and Hitachi/IBM. Any of these brands should serve you well and you might shop online for the best "deal" by comparing cost/GB. Sales are common and often change from week to week, particularly amongst the mass merchants like Best Buy, Circuit City, Fry 's (outpost.com), Tiger Direct, Newegg, CompUSA, etc., so it pays to shop around online if you want to save some money. The best deals include a rebate or rebates.
Regarding OS 9, even though you don't intend to use it, when you do format the drive, I'd recommend checking the box in Disk Utility to install the OS 9 drivers anyway, which doesn't take up any usable space on the drive and might come in handy in the future, in case you need to update firmware or perform other tasks which OS X can't handle.
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I wonder, that i don't get any feedback here (please see below).
Can somebody first just confirm this observation?
Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition Release 11.2.0.3.0 - 64bit Production
PL/SQL Release 11.2.0.3.0 - Production
"CORE 11.2.0.3.0 Production"
TNS for Linux: Version 11.2.0.3.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 11.2.0.3.0 - Production
NLSRTL 11.2.0.3.0 Production
Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition 11.2.0.3.0 64bit Production
PL/SQL 11.2.0.3.0 Production
TNS for Linux: 11.2.0.3.0 Production
I recognized for my application, that there is an increasing efforts (in terms of time) for executing
(in a pl/sql package procedure invoked by a BIU trigger)
SELECT XMLSERIALIZE(CONTENT(p_xml_data)) INTO v_xml_clob FROM DUAL;
Here is a little demo sqlplus script:
create or replace package test_pkg
as
       procedure check_xml(
         p_xml_data in out nocopy xmltype);
end;
create or replace package body test_pkg
as
       procedure log(
         p_txt in varchar2)
       is
         ts     TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE := systimestamp;
       begin
         dbms_output.put_line(to_char(ts, 'hhmiss.FF3') || ':' || p_txt);
       end;
       procedure check_xml(
         p_xml_data in out nocopy xmltype)
       is
         v_xml_clob CLOB;
         v_len NUMBER;
       begin
         log('check_xml(): enter');
         SELECT XMLSERIALIZE(CONTENT(p_xml_data)) INTO v_xml_clob FROM DUAL;
         log(' serialized');
         v_len := dbms_lob.getlength(v_xml_clob);
         log('check_xml(): done - length = #' || v_len);
       exception
       when others then
           oerror_pkg.set_ora_error;
           raise;
       end;
end;
drop table test_table;
create table test_table(
       tid number(19,0),
       data xmltype
create or replace trigger BIU_TEST_TABLE
before insert or update on test_Table
for each row
declare
begin
   test_pkg.check_xml(:new.data);
end;
insert into test_table(tid, data)
select ctr_tab.ctr, '<root><node>' || ctr_tab.ctr || '</node></root>'
from ( SELECT LEVEL ctr
       FROM dual
       CONNECT BY LEVEL <= 200) ctr_tab;
The output is going like this
021543.204:check_xml(): enter
021543.204: serialized
021543.204:check_xml(): done - length = #32
021543.206:check_xml(): enter
021543.206: serialized
021543.206:check_xml(): done - length = #32
021543.207:check_xml(): enter
021543.208: serialized
021543.208:check_xml(): done - length = #32
021543.209:check_xml(): enter
021543.210: serialized
021543.210:check_xml(): done - length = #32
021543.211:check_xml(): enter
021543.212: serialized
021543.212:check_xml(): done - length = #32
021543.214:check_xml(): enter
021543.214: serialized
021543.214:check_xml(): done - length = #32
021549.625:check_xml(): enter
021549.664: serialized
021549.665:check_xml(): done - length = #34
021549.708:check_xml(): enter
021549.746: serialized
021549.747:check_xml(): done - length = #34
021549.791:check_xml(): enter
021549.829: serialized
021549.830:check_xml(): done - length = #34
021549.874:check_xml(): enter
021549.912: serialized
021549.913:check_xml(): done - length = #34
When i filter it with a little perl script to extract the efforts (xmlserialize / dbms_lob.getlength):
0 / 0
0 / 0
1 / 0
1 / 0
1 / 0
0 / 0
0 / 0
0 / 1
1 / 0
0 / 0
0 / 1
1 / 0
0 / 0
0 / 1
1 / 0
0 / 1
0 / 1
0 / 0
0 / 1
0 / 0
0 / 1
0 / 0
1 / 0
0 / 1
0 / 0
31 / 1
31 / 1
32 / 1
32 / 1
32 / 1
33 / 0
33 / 0
34 / 1
34 / 0
34 / 1
34 / 0
34 / 1
34 / 1
35 / 1
35 / 1
36 / 0
36 / 1
36 / 1
37 / 1
37 / 0
37 / 1
38 / 0
38 / 0
39 / 1
38 / 1
38 / 1
38 / 1
Unfortunately i can't easily change the way the insert from select is done (legacy code not under my control)
Can someone tell me, if there is a way starting with the trigger to avoid those increasing efforts?
- many thanks!
best regards,
Frank

[ Addendum - 24.01.2014:
This only worked for the test/demo program. It didn't work for my application.
   For my application i really had to move the logic to the INSERT before the trigger
   - similar to the 3rd posting for my monologue(!) here.
A little step further:
I also don't have the problem if i expand the code of the PROCEDURE test_pkg.check_xml(...) directly into the trigger
- instead of invoking the PROCEDURE in the trigger:
create or replace package test_pkg
as
       procedure log(
         p_txt in varchar2);
end;
create or replace package body test_pkg
as
       procedure log(
         p_txt in varchar2)
       is
         ts     TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE := systimestamp;
       begin
         dbms_output.put_line(to_char(ts, 'hhmiss.FF3') || ':' || p_txt);
       end;
end;
drop table test_table;
create table test_table(
       tid number(19,0),
       data xmltype
create or replace trigger BIU_TEST_TABLE
before insert or update on test_Table
for each row
declare
begin
-- test_pkg.check_xml(:new.data);
       declare
         v_xml_clob CLOB;
         v_len NUMBER;
       begin
         test_pkg.log('check_xml(): enter');
         SELECT XMLSERIALIZE(CONTENT(:new.data)) INTO v_xml_clob FROM DUAL;
         test_pkg.log(' serialized');
         v_len := dbms_lob.getlength(v_xml_clob);
        test_pkg.log('check_xml(): done - length = #' || v_len);
       exception
       when others then
           oerror_pkg.set_ora_error;
           raise;
       end;
   end;
insert into test_table(tid, data)
select ctr_tab.ctr, '<root><node>' || ctr_tab.ctr || '</node></root>'
from ( SELECT LEVEL ctr
       FROM dual
       CONNECT BY LEVEL <= 200) ctr_tab;
-- rollback;
That gives some hint.
Does oracle have some problem / limit for invoking procedures (functions) from triggers?
Or only if those use certain features?
An issue about deterministic and re-entrance?
Well, that boxes me into a corner.
Because the single package procedure implements a functionality at a central place - i.e. a single central place to extend it or to fix it.
If i now have to expand its content (like a macro) into the triggers of the respective table i am in trouble.
Because those tables (and their triggers) are dynamically generated by a compiler tool of a c++ client.
This means for extension and fixes i need to change, test, deliver and deploy a list of c++ client processes :-(
Is there any way around?
How can i inform oracle that the invocation of a PL/SQL procedure is functionally identically with expanding the PL/SQL functions code into the trigger?
rgds,
Frank

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