Producer Consumer Issues

Hi all,
I'm creating my first producer-consumer program, and I've run into a few problems. I have two producer loops (one is a pressure controller and the other is power reading loop). I've used queues to pass data into the consumer loop which records the data (at a much slower rate). The problem is that the producer loop (the pressure controller) contains the stop signal for the program. So I've had problems shutting down all 3 loops.
My questions are......Do I have to shut down the consumer loop first, then the producers? What is the best way to pass stop signals (local variables, booleans in a queue, etc)? Also when I try to use the producer loop to stop the other loops I get the attached error. Anyone have any recommendations for making an efficient stopping procedure? The wait inside the consumer loop is quite long (5 min), so I'd like the minimize the stopping time, if possible.
I've attached two versions that I've been working with. They use version 8.5.
Thanks in advance - Dan
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I like to stop the program in the producer loop, and wire the error output of the dequeue element function to the stop of the consumer loop (when the producer loop stops the dequeue element function will generate an error, the error out will cary this to the stop and the loop will stop). Hope this helps!
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Vaibhav wrote:
@ Harold
Thanks. Any suggestion how can I start and stop that loop in parallel with other loops? Like, if some event occurs, the loop should start execution, and keep on moving, while other events are being traced and executed.
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Message Edited by ap8888 on 03-17-2010 07:43 PM
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Here are the errors:
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I am using a producer/consumer architecture with a state machine. The problem I run into is that when I press the "Main Menu" button, it should close the pictured vi and return to the main gui. I tried using the vi server, and when the user presses the Main Menu button, it fires an event and then it goes to the Stop state in the consumer loop, which opens a reference to the vi's (one for the strip chart vi and another for the gage vi), closes the front panel using an invoke node and then closing the reference. I also tried adding in the abort vi method after the close front panel and it still gave me the same result.
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Hi Kenny,
I think of two solutions to your problem. First, use the message queue to pass the message "stop" or something from producer to consumer or second (and I think, better), use occurrences. I made a little draft how it could work.
You have to pass the occurence- Refnum to both VIs, the producer and the consumer, when the producer finishes execution, then use "Set Occurence".
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Greets, Dave
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thisoldman,
I don't have '/usr/lib/modules/3.17.3-1-ARCH/build/Documentation/VGA-softcursor.txt' on my file system. Does it contain the info about changing the blinking speed?
P.S. The other two links I found yet before starting this thread. I only found in them the recommendations about changing "the color and shape of the cursor and turning blinking on/off" (as I mentioned in the original question). Did I miss the info about the blinking speed?
PPS: I found the vga-softcursor.txt here: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentatio … cursor.txt
But that file doesn't tell about changing the blink rate either.
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The reason you would use get time and date in seconds to to ensure that you log every second. If you use the 1 second wait then you do not take into account the exicution time of your loop. If you add more to the loop in the future than you will see that you do not log every second as you thought. If you loop took 500ms to exicute and you have the 1000ms wait then the actual excution time for recoding to file is 1.5 seconds not 1000ms as you desired. The way I did it will always give you one second unless you exicution time for your loop exceeds one second.''
I did make one change to the vi. I shoulod have put the write in the true false case so that the write only happens when the 1 second has expired.
Tim
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Holland Michigan
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Can anyone tell me what's wrong with my queue or producer consumer loop?

A Labview engineer helped me with the overall structure of my program, necessitated by the fast data sample rate and post processing requirements. He recommended the producer/consumer loop and using one of the example files (Cont Acq graph voltage - int clk) to do the actual data acquistion. So I put together the loop and go my two channels of data acq going in the producer loop. However, nothing's getting picked up in the consumer loop and none of my data gets displayed over there.
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Your Enque Element should be inside the while loop where you aquire the data. As it is now, the data has to stop being aquired before you send the last set of aquired data.
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Time Stamps in Producer/Consumer Setup

I am trying to acquire signal from a Gas Analyzer, Flow Meter, and 3 RTDs. My hardware is a NI 9215 and NI 9217. I need to write the data to a file with a time stamp at which the sample was read. The program is written in a producer/consumer setup in which the data is being acquired in the prodcuer loop and sent to the consumer loop to be written. I can get the samples written to the file okay. However, I have not figured out how to put the time stamp in the data file correctly. I thought the time stamp was created with the corressponding measurement at the Data Acquisition VI. However, whenever I open the data file, there are only 0s in the time column. So, I've tried to use Format/Date String to add the time stamp. I can get it to work if I place it in the consumer loop. However, the time stamp is not accurate. It puts the same time stamp up to six digits of precision for two consecutive samples. I've tried to figure out how to add it to the producer loop, but I don't know how to add it and the measurements to the queue at the same time. Please tell me the best way to acquire signals with the exact time stamp and write them to a file using a producer/consumer design.
Example:
Date             Time       RTD1 RTD2      RTD3   CO2    Flow
5/26/07      5:20:01.25       57         56         56.5      100       0.5
5/26/07      5:20:01.30       57         56         56.5      100       0.5
5/26/07      5:20:01.35       57         56         56.5      100       0.5
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Okay, I've put it in a For Loop and it will connect now. However, whenever it runs the time stamp increments for a couple seconds and then it just repeats. How do I correct this?
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I think it would make sense to use the producer consumer for an architecture. Basically you would do the following:
1. program the producer to handle the user interface as you normally would.
2. provide one additional event case in the producer which would be your "automated handling" case. In that case, you could put a state machine which could run until whatever conditions were met to put your program back in "user interface mode".
Keep in mind that you can use custom USER EVENTS to programmatically generate events ie. you can trigger the start of your "automated handling" form anywhere in your code at virtually any time.
I think this would allow you to take advantage of the producer consumer architecture in its intended spirit, while integrating an automated routine.
I hope this helps!
Best Regards,
JLS
Best,
JLS
Sixclear

Running subVI in parallel with itself using producer-consumer pattern

I'm using the procuder-consumer pattern to create what I call threads in response to various events much like in Producer Consumer with Event Structure and Queues
I have several physical instruments, and would like to run the exact
same test in parallel on each of the instruments. I have a subVI
that takes as inputs a VISA resource and a few control references among
other things and then performs the desired experiment. I have a
separate consumer loop for each physical instrument, with this subVI
inside each consumer loop.
My test VI worked great; each consumer loop was a simple while loop
incrementing a numeric indicator (not using my real subVI above).
However, my real program can only run one consumer loop at a time much
to my dismay. Reworking my simple test VI to use a subVI to
increment the indicator rather than just explicitly coding everything
resulted in the same problem: only a single consumer loop ran at a time
(and as I stopped the running loop, another would get a chance to
begin). The subVI in this case was extremely
simple taking only a ref to the indicator and a ref to a boolean to
stop, and incrementing the indicator in a while-loop.
Is there a way around this? Now that I've spent the time making a
nice subVI to do the entire experiment on on the physical instrument, I
thought it would be fairly trivial to extend this to control multiple
instruments performing the same experiment in parallel. It seems
only one instance of a given subVI may run at one time. Is this
true? If it is indeed true, what other options do I have? I
have little desire to recode my subVI to manually handle multiple
physical instruments; this would also result in a loss of functionality
as all parallel experiments would run more or less in lock step without
much more complexity.
Thank you.

You need to make your subvi reentrant. Then it can run several instances at any time with each instance occupying its own unique memory space. Click on File - VI Properties - Execution, and check the reentry execution checkbox. Then save the vi.
- tbob
Inventor of the WORM Global

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