Product Costing using Moving Average Price of FERT & HALB

Dear Experts,
My client wants to use Product Costing functionality by using Moving Average Price instead of Standard Price on Finished Goods & Semi Finished Goods and as per my understanding, SAP recommends to use Standard Price on FERT & HALB.
I know if we use moving average price instead of standard price than there will be no concept of variances. Can anyone tell me more about what are the pros and cons of using moving average price instead of standard price in Product Costing?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Zain Bashir

Hi Zain
Let's take an example
You have V for Mat A
You create 3 Prod orders in a month
Order 1 - Qty 10 - variance 100
Same for Order 2 and 3..
At month end, you sold 20 pieces and 10 is in stock..
When you settle order 1, system will compare order qty and stock.. It will match I.e. 10 = 10... Hence variance of 100 will be posted on stock
Same will happen for Order 2 and 3... Ideally, only 100 should have posted on stock... but in this case 300 of variance will be posted on stock...
This is what the note mentioned by Arturo tells, but not so clearly
Hope this helps
Br. Ajay M

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Hi Sapians,
Please guide me how to configure Product Costing & the users steps to test the same. Here client wants to work in Moving Average Price.
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Vikas

Hello Viki,
This question can not be answered in this forum simply because its not issue based and we can't help you with each step. Yes product costing can be done using moving average price and you can do so in the Valuation and Account Assignment section in materials management. However, moving average is not a recommended approach for internally manufactured goods and it may result in allocation of the previous period's variance on the valuation of the products in the next period. You can find more on this on SAP Library and you can download the SAP's best practices configuration guides from the SAP website for help on configuring.
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Product Costing with Moving Average Price

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Please guide me solution of my below scenario :
- FG Material (500013) Process Order Created of 1000 units at 1st August.
- FG Material (500013) Process Order confirmed and GR posted at 3rd of August.
- All stock of FG Material (500013) sold at 25th of August <Stock Out>.
- Now at month end, when we execute actual activity price calculation, what would be the impact of revaluation of actual activity price where no material existed in stock ?
Please guide?
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Zain Bashir

Hi
Probably I am not getting your question exactly. Based on my understanding of query I would like to state as under. If I missed your concern, kindly revert.
Based on actual activity prices when you will revalue process order the activity cost on that order will come on actual prices and when you will calculate variance and settle it, the same will be settled to production variance account. Please check and verify in test system.
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Copy Standard Cost to Moving Average Price

Dear All,
We are maintaining the materials with price control as Standard Price and moving average price is updated and used only for statistical purpose.
I have a requirement of copying the standard price to moving average price field just after the standard costs have been released.
We have used CK40N to complete the calculation and release of standard costs.
Please let me know which SAP standard transaction can be used for the purpose.
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Manish Gupta

Hi
Whats the need to copy std price to moving price?
I dont think there is any such t code to copy it.. But a weird work around is, if u r on ECC 6.0, you can change the price control from S to V and again V to S.. In this process, your price will get copied from S to V
However, not a recommended way of doing... If you do, you shud do this at a shot and blocking all others users
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Ajay M

Production Planning at Moving Average Price

We do very little manufacting, in fact, I would call it "re-packaging". All our compnay does is take products from one package size and convert them to another package size, for example, we take bulk gallons and repackage it to 5 gallon pails. The only materials involved is a 5 gallon pail and the 5 gallons of material that go into that pail. We want the finished products moving average price (MAP) to be equal to the MAP of the inputs. I know that finished products should not be carried at MAP, but we manufacture on such a small scale that I don't think we will have huge issues carrying finished goods at MAP. We are not interested in knowing what the product cost vs. what the product should have cost to produce, all we want to happen is have the finished product=cost of inputs.
Is there anyone that has done this? If so, what is the best way to configure our system.
Thanks in advance,
Scott

The basic issue with moving average price for manufactured items is getting all the costs on the production/process orders before the finished items is consumed out of stock. For example, make 10 items with costs of $100, so moving average price is $10 each. 9 of the finished items are then consumed leaving 1 in stock. An additional cost is incurred on the production/process order of $50 (i.e. missed goods issue, COGI error, etc.) the single item in stock will now have a moving average price of $60 ($10 + $50). If the finished item is fully consumed then the $50 goes to a production variance account.
With standard price you consume for the same price (subject to periodic recalcalution) and analyis your production variances.

Costing material having moving average price

HI
My client is having business where prices fluctuates a lot and he wants to use moving average price for all materials including semi-finished and finished material.
My question is in this senario how to do configuration of product costing and how will i be able to calculate cost as far as product costing is concerned. client doesnt want to use material ledger.
Regards
Invin

Hi,
You can not carry out period product costing activity if the material has moving average price control.
If you set moving average price control to material master, the following activities control the moving average price
1. GR (if the value is different from PO price) Entry in MIGO
2. IR (if the value is different from PO price) Entry in MIRO (invoice posting)
3. Price change using (MR21 Tcode)
4. Debit/Credit Material (MR22 Tcode)
Prerequisited for Product costing with quantity structure
1. Material ledger should be active
2. Product should be allowed for cost estimate (setting in Material Master)
3. The master should have Standard price Control in the material master.
If you want to change the price of the semifinished product with moving average price (due to price fluctuation) use MR21 or MR22. But this activity involves lot of human effort.

SAP allows release of Standard Cost for Material with Moving Average Price

Hi
We set our Raw Material to use Moving Average Price (V) and price determination 2 (single level). And we activated material ledger.
During mass calculation of standard cost (CK40N), If user accidentally forgot to restrict the Raw Material for being included in calculation, the system calculate standard cost anyway, even though I set it as Moving Average Price. And user is able to release it too without any problem.
Why the system does not restrict it? By giving error maybe. Although as for now I can not find the wrong effect from releasing standard cost for MAP material, by your experience, is there any side effect that I should be aware of?
Thanks

CK40n is mass release of all materials. The release is not dependent on price indicator of the material in the master. It will calculate standard cost of all the materials.
Releasing standard cost estimate of raw materials does not have any side effect as long your calculation is based on moving average price.
Regards
Divraj

Moving average prices and std prices

hi friends,
i have a doubt abt prices...
which will b assigned for raw materials-standard price? or avg moving price? and why?
if possible explain clearly about avg.moving price and std.price
for spit valuation what price we will use??
help me out..
thanks in advance...
venkat

Standard price are used for products that do not fluctuated frequently. It is usually used for finished or semi finished products.
Moving average price are used mainly for raw materials that are purchased externally. The advantage of using moving average price for your raw materials is that your inventory costs will always reflect the current market cost.
SAP strongly recommends that you do not select price control V for semi-finished products and finished products, because doing so will very easily cause the calculation of unrealistic valuation prices. SAP recommends:
Price control V for raw materials and trading goods; price control S for semi-finished products and products
We recommend that you only use price control V for materials procured
externally. Materials produced in-house should be subject to a
standard price control.
Generally all raw materials (ROH), spare parts (ERSA), traded goods (HAWA) etc. are assigned as moving average price (MAP) because of the accounting practice of accurately valuating the inventory of such materials. These materials are subject to the purchase price fluctuations on a regular basis.
The semi-finished goods (HALB) and finished products (FERT) are valuated with standard price because of the product costing angle. If these were to be MAP controlled, then finished/semi-finished product valuation would fluctuate due to data entry errors during backflushing of material and labour, production inefficiencies (higher cost) or efficiencies (lower cost). This is not a standard accounting and costing practice
For Split valuated material it is recommended to use Moving average price

Standarad price and moving average price

What is the diff between Standarad price and moving average price ???
Somasundaram

Price Control V or S in material type
When is it useful to use the price control V or S in Material Master ?
Do I have to follow the SAP standard setting in the material type for the following material types:
- ROH(Raw materials) -> moving average price
- HALB(Semifinished products) -> standard price
- FERT(Finished products) -> standard price
In which case and why is useful to change these standard setting in material type?
What is difference between standard price and moving average price?
When and how to use it?
Standard price are used for products that do not fluctuated frequently. It is usually used for finished or semi finished products.
Moving average price are used mainly for raw materials that are purchased externally. The advantage of using moving average price for your raw materials is that your inventory costs will always reflect the current market cost.
SAP strongly recommends that you do not select price control V for semi-finished products and finished products, because doing so will very easily cause the calculation of unrealistic valuation prices. SAP recommends:
Price control V for raw materials and trading goods; price control S for semi-finished products and products.
If you nevertheless select price control V, take care in the following situations:
1. Unrealistic prices occur if materials are produced and also retire during one period (that is, the inventory at the end of the period is smaller than the total of aquisitions from production orders) and if, in addition, several production orders belonging to a material were finished in this period, and the production order settlement calculates variances at the end of the period. Every single production order carries out an inventory coverage check and may therefore cause the moving average price to be changed. However, the individual production orders do not check whether the inventory available at the end of the period has already been debited by another production order.
Example: on 20 workdays in the period, 1 piece of material xyz was produced for each day and delivered to the warehouse at a price of USD 1000. At the end of the period there is 1 piece at the warehouse. Since an activity price of a participating cost center was higher than planned , every single production order calculates cost of goods manufactured of USD 1100 during the settlement. Every single one carries out a inventory coverage check and finds out that the variance can be posted completely to the inventory. That is, the ending inventory of one piece is debited with USD 20 x 100 and it consequently receives a price of USD 3000.
1. A settlement is carried out although not all costs have yet been posted to the order. This can even result in a price of 0 for the delivered product.
2. No period check of the costs is carried out on the order, that is, costs from previous periods may be settled.
3. Settling orders is already possible in the 'Delivery completed' status.
Solution: Standard price for products together with possible manual price changes.
If you are required to valuate semi-finished and finished products with actual prices that correspond to the costs of the actual production, SAP recommends you use the function of the material ledger for this. Here, a periodic actual price is created that is calculated on a much more reliable basis than the moving average price. A so-called price limiter quantity is used which makes sure that in the above example price differences are proportionally taken into account (95% of the total price differences) when valuating the 19 pieces withdrawn from material xyz which results in a periodic actual price of 1100 USD. In addition, it is possible as of Release 4.5 to even take into account the variances of the actual prices of the raw materials in the valuation of the semi-finished and finished products that are manufactured from it.
If we select std price for any type of material or mav and then make po, it will pick from material master or what?
The Purchase Info Record have the FIRST priority. When no po info record is found, the Purchase Order will pick the user LAST enter price. The PO module do not pick up any price from material master.
Regards,
Ashok

Does moving average price work with multiple valuations?

Dear All,
I have activated multiple valuations: Legal, group and profit center.
I have activated ML/Actual costing for this multiple valuations too.
Now I have 3 price fields in material master.
Could I use moving average price for some materials types in multiple valuations?
Thank you,
With best regards,
Kamila.

Hi Kamila,
yes, ML is always activated for all materials in a plant. To use MAP you have to set the price determination of a material to '2':
This is the F1 help of the field price determination:
Material Price Determination: Control
Specifies how the material price determination should procede.
You have the following options:
With price control V in activity-based material price determination (indicator2 in the material master), the moving average price is calculated. With price control S, the material is valuated with the standard price and the moving average price is calculated for information purposes.
In single-/multi-level material price determination(indicator 3 in the material master), the valuation price (standard price) remains unchanged and a periodic unit price is calculated for the closed period.
This option is only for materials with price control indicator S,and is only recommended if in addition to multiple currencies and/or valuations, you use single-/multi-level material price determination.
In single-/multi-level material price determination, a periodic unit price is updated for information, but it can only be used for material valuation in the closed period.
Dependencies
The indicator is only of use if the material ledger is active.
Upon activating a valuation area for the Material Ledger in Customizing, you can enter what type of material price determination will be proposed when creating a material in that valuation area. This proposal will be ignored at production startup: the system automatically sets the indicator to 2 in the material master for all materials present.
If you want to change the indicator for a particular material later, choose Accounting -> Controlling -> Actual Costing/Material Ledger -> Environment -> Change Material Price Determination.
best regards,
Udo

Standard vs Moving Average Price

Dear SAP Gurus
Can anybody pls explain the significance of Moving avg and Standard price of Material.
Thanks & Regards
Shalini

The standard price or moving average price in material master is used to determine the value of the inventory.
Standard price are used for products that do not fluctuate frequently. It is mainly used for FG or semi finished products.
Moving average price are used mainly for raw materials that are purchased externally. The advantage of using moving average price for raw materials is that the inventory costs will always reflect the current market price.
If the material is valued at a standard price,
the difference between the purchase order price and the standard price will go to a price difference account.
If the material is valued at a moving average price, the difference between the purchase order price and
the moving average price will NOT go to a price difference account. The moving average price will simply be adjusted.

Moving average price for finished goods

Hi All
I am using moving average price for finished goods. My question is, Does the price on the material master record adjusts, when we do goods receipt on a production order( If there are variances)?
here is a scenario:
Moving avrage price of finished goods=2$ and total stock =1
it has two components in the Bom
Raw1-3$
Raw2-3$
Now when I am producing 1 qy of finished goods with 6 $ of Raw materials, moving average price of fert should be 6+2/2=4 $. But I noticed the moving average price in the material master record is not changing.
My question is, Does the MVP changes with production order goods receipt, If so, what setting should I change to acheive that functionality.
Thanks
Steve

Hi Guys
Thanks for responding
I am aware that sap does not recommend MAP for finished goods. But we have a weird requirement. And I am doing a demo on this. My thought on MAP is, It changes for every goods receipt. But when I am doing goods receipt on production order, It is not changing the MAP, Even though there is variance on production order. So, My question is, Did I miss any configuration ?

Difference between Standard Pricing and Moving Average Price

Hi,
Would like to seek some advises on the difference between standard price and Moving average price.
also, how does it affect the account postings differently?
Thanks

Standard Price
Materials whose price control indicator is set to S are valuated in Financial Accounting (FI) at standard price.
This is recommended for semifinished products and finished products.
The moving average price is shown as a statistical value in the material master record.
The standard price is normally calculated using a standard cost estimate for the material. The standard price can also be calculated in a mixed cost estimate.
Moving Average Price
When materials whose price control indicator is set to V are received from in-house manufacturing processes, they are initially valuated with a value you defined (such as the standard price). When you settle, the material stock account is debited with the variances. This results in a new moving average price.
Valuating semifinished products and finished products with the moving average price is not recommended.
Regards,
Indranil

MTS variances with moving average price

Hi expert,
Is it possible to satisfy this requirement for cost estimate and variances in make to stock scenario ?
-Actual cost at Moving average price for all article
-Calculate cost estimate for articles and write it on standard price field with strategy that read also standard price
-Calculate planning and production variances for all the Make to Stock PP order?but stock must be update with Moving average price.
My doubt is how can i have variances detailed if i manage article with Moving average price.
How can I have variances as "statistics" otherwise I would have double costs.
thanks

HI
If you manufacture some thing, its price control should never be V, else it ruins the inventory valuation forever
Consider the eg below if your price control is V
1. Your moving price in mat master is 100 USD
2. You Mfr on Jan 1 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
Upon GR, GR will happen @ 100 and at period end if Qty is lying in stock, 10 variance will also be inventorized
BUT, now consider this
1. Your moving price in mat master is 100 USD
2. You Mfr on Jan 1 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
Upon GR, GR will happen @ 100 and variance lying is 10 in prod order
3. You Mfr on Jan 10 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
Upon GR, GR will happen @ 100 and variance lying is 10 in prod order
4. On jan 15, you consume Qty 1 and qty lying in stock is 1
5. In period end, when you do settlement, following will happen
a. For prod order 1: Qty Mfd 1 and Qty lying in stock 1 - Result: variance 10 will be inventorized.
Mvg Avg price will shoot upto 110
b. For prod order 2: Qty Mfd 1 and Qty lying in stock 1 - Result: variance 10 will be inventorized.
Mvg Avg price (MAP) will shoot upto 120
System wont check whether the qty lying in stock pertains to prod order 1 or 2... It will simply check if the Qty of prod order matches with qty lying in stock. hence, it will keep on inventorizing variance in this case.... and your MAP will touch the sky
Regards
Ajay M

Moving average price for in-house produced spare parts

Hi all:
We use moving average price V for spare parts which are produced in-house - production order deployed for such business.
During goods receipt, I can post the material document, but no material is posted into inventory, and no financial document is created either.
Can anyone tell me the reason. It quite urgent. Thanks.
Andy

Hi,
Check whether your material type is marked for Quantity and Value updates for that Valuation Area. This can be checked in Logistics General->Material Master->Basic Settings->Material Types->Attributes to Material Types and in that Quantity and Value Updation.
Also Check OBYC settings for material account determination specific to BSX and WRX transaction keys for that valuation area.
Thanks
Krishna.

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