Production Version in R/3 & PDS in APO

Hi Team,
I have below master data settings in R/3:
1. Material Master
2. BOM
Note:
I do not have work center & routing in R/3. I have set the default operation for my order type in OPJG.
But as per system landscape, the planning will be performed in APO. Hence i need to CIF the production version to APO from R/3. But i do not have routing in R/3. Is it possible to create the production version without routing (in R/3)?
Thanks

Yes, It can be transferred. You need to create CIF integration model(CFM1) with "BOM" option selected.
SAP Help says following -
Material BOM in Integration Model
If you set this indicator, all bills of material that correspond to the
stated selection options are indcluded in your model.
Dependencies
The material BOM filter object can only be used in connection with the
production data structure (iPPE) and it is used to map phantom assemblies.
Only those bills of material are transferred for materials for which no
production production versions have been created.
Hope this will help.
Thank you
Satish Waghmare

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Murali - Its possible to use multiple PV in sub contracting.
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1. In CFC9 activate the - Transfer multiple selection of PDS indicator. When you select this indicator, the system allows you to select several productions versions in the integration model; it also creates a Production Process Model (PPM) or Production Data Structure (PDS) for each production version in SAP SCM
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https://websmp130.sap-ag.de/sap(bD1lbiZjPTAwMQ==)/bc/bsp/spn/sapnotes/index2.htm?numm=854561
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