Profire 610 vs Duet vs Sanity

Ok, so I sell my Duet and get a profire 610 (descent firewire audio interface) so i can run pro tools for this big recording project coming up. I've always been a logic guy but I have to use both for what is coming up...
Pro tools mpower no issues.
Songs that ran fine with my Duet won't play more than 10 seconds now with this new interface. Can Maudio's hardware be that far behind the Duet?
The sound quality isn't too far off but I'm really getting about a few beats only before the audio engine gets overloaded.
I'd like to get my logic working with this new interface.
Are there any secrets I should know? Is Maudio really this bad?
Please help!
George

There have been many issues with M-Audio drivers reported in this Forum (you can find some of them by searching). You could also visit their website & look for bug reports & known issues, & if appropriate, download a more recent driver that's compatible with your set-up.

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I'm new to Garage Band and am trying to get set up properly to learn how to use the software. Is ProFire 610 a good way to go or is there something better in a similar price range (MSRP was $399 but I got this one for aboug $200 and THEN learned another company bought M-Audio which makes me kind of concerned - as in, will the continue to upgrade their software?) Wondering now if I should return it for something else before I get started.
Any feedback would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Syl

Good morning!
Thanks for the quick response. What would you recommend, if not firewire? There's not much out there in the way of Thunderbolt, from what I've seen and it's pretty pricey.
I'm quite a newbie at this stuff so I really appreciate the input from those with experience/knowledge.
Apple store has Apogee Duet
sugggested. It looks super simple which is what I'm looking for while in the beginning. In the past I've bought equipment with such a tough learning curve that it took the fun out of it.
For now, I'm just looking for the simplest way to connect guitar, keyboard & mic so I can experiment with GarageBand and learn how to use it.
Looking forward to your response.
Have a good day!
Syl

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For a Profire 610/2626 work around see here:
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M-audio profire 610

hi,
I'm trying to run an m-audio profire 610 on logic express 8; the program and my computer detects it, but for some reason i cannot monitor or record anything. does anyone have any suggestions as to what i should do?
Thanks,
-Mark

I'm not sure which model of MacBook Air you have, though I think MacBook air doesn't have FireWire port which is required to connect with Profire 610.

M-Audio ProFire 610 and Snow Leopard

I know that M-Audio has not officially declared any of its interface devices (save some simple USB ones) Snow Leopard compatible yet. But has anyone upgraded to SL yet? If so, does it recognize your Profire interface device or are we best off waiting "a few weeks" (as M-Audio's web site states) until they release new drivers?
Thanks!

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http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?t=11831
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Serious M-Audio Profire 610 sync and dropout problem

After an, over a month, waiting for a solution to the problem from m-audio, I have to post the problem to the community:
I m using an early 2009 8-core MAC PRO with M-Audio Profire 610, using it for video editing with Final Cut Pro (and sound design with Pro Tools).
The problem is that since I've updated the machine to 10.6.7, I m experiencing VIDEO dropouts in Final Cut, the very first playback seconds of EVERY video track (on every codec) that I try to preview and at any point of it.
Also, occasionally, the audio-video sync is lost and I have to pause-play in order to gain the sync back on..
When I switch the audio output to Built in audio or Display audio, the dropout and sync problem disappears. When I switch back to Profire 610 the dropout starts again.
The video and audio settings and the tracks encoding are the same for at least 2 years now, since I m working ALLWAYS with my P2 panasonic DCVPROHD camera, with which I have shot and edit in my MAC PRO multiple videos, including a feature film..
I have tested the problem on two Macbook pros (early 2007) that I use for the shootings and the problem is there also !(when I plug the Profire 610)
The last think that I 've tried on my main unit, was:
-do a zero data format to my vertex 2 ssd boot drive,
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-uninstall the profire driver
-repair permissions
-install the profire driver (for 32 bit 10.6.6)
-repair permissions.
The problem's still here.
I m stuck with my projects here… Is there a solution out there?
Thank you very much for the attention
Diamantis

So, to be clear, it happens when the FirePro 610 in connected, and does not happen when it's diconnected?
That is obviously directly related to the FirePRo 610 having some hardware latency issues on an OS level. That's up to M-Audio to fix. There was never anything wrong with your Mac, there's something wrong with the M-Audio unit, obviously.
Do you have a FW hard drive plugged in? If so, will it work correctly without any other FW devices connected?
It could be defective.
http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?10302-Firepro-610-on-Mac-OS-10.5.7&p=46 873

Profire 610 & Logic Pro interface connection problems

Hi All
I have an M-Audio profire 610 and I am trying to connect it to logic pro 7. I have downloaded the driver off the m-audio site for a PPC running Mac OSX 10.4.11 and it is still not working.
It looks as if the interface is receiving signal but not sending it to the computer.
The profire is showing up in the Audio and Midi Configuration utility.
Any help would be awesome
Thx
Chris

Tried another Firewire cable? Tried the Profire with another computer? Also, make sure in AudioMidi Setup the clock source for the Profire is not set to computer. Another thing you may to try is to zap the PRAM. Re-start te computer while holding Command-Option-P-R and wait until you heard the starting chime three times before releasing the keys.

Upgraded osx Mavericks, have LE 9.18, having problems getting signal w/ Profire 610

Everything looks normal. Profire shows signal recognition. Profire mixer window shows signal. Logic Express shows Profire 610 as an option for audio input and output (which I have selected). But when it comes to actually getting signal into Logic there is nothing. (Yes, Input select and Record Enable are chosen). Everything is how I've had it in the past, but the only difference is I upgraded to OSX 10.9. Today is the first time I've tried recording since upgrading the OS. Yeah, I know I'm late to the party. I've seen lots of people are having similar issues. Is it LE9? The M-Audio Profire 610? Mavericks?

Alright, I got the install to go all the way with limited memory (1 stick of 256) but now the initial boot doesn't go without help from a start up disk of some sort. Ran tests with TechTools Pro and seems OK but if I don't start up with a CD and then restart with chosen start-up disk I get a "?" at the boot-up.
As for the Logic HitKit program, when I was using OS 9.(?) I could substitue my OMS (Open Music System ) and use both modem and printer port MIDI connections. With the new OS 10.2 it seems only one will work at a time. Yes, I need a modern soundcard with MIDI connections but I haven't got back to that point yet since experiencing my many start up difficulties.
I appreciate everyone's feedback and ideas. Thanks-TopBob
Message was edited by: TopBob
I did a CUDA reset before installing the system, and a PRAM reset (keyboard) helped previously, but I remember someone elses post saying a CUDA reset should be done after all hardware changes. Would this include replacing the RAM cards?
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IMac OSX 10.9.1 incompatible with M-Audio ProFire 610

I have no more connection with my M-Audio ProFire 610. My iMac OSX 10.9.1 doesn't see the device! There does not seem to be an updated driver for M-audio ProFire 610 in Mavericks. I need to record. Help!

I've found a workaround for M-audio's *disgustingly* lazy support: either
- use an outboard Thunderbolt dock like the one Belkin makes (the one I'm currently using) and connect the Profire to the 800 port on the back of the dock
- use a thunderbolt to fw800 adapter (which makes using an external display impossible of course).
The problem is that Mavericks addresses FW ports differently from Mountain Lion, however any ports connected through TB works just fine. I have a hunch the same principle applies to the FW port on the back of Apple's TB displays.
However, I'm not able to include it in an Aggregate device. I know Apple is phasing out FW ports but that's no reason for M-Audio to shaft their older customers!

Logic Studio, MacBook pro, M-Audio ProFire 610, M-Audio Axiom 61

I'm just about to get the above: Logic Studio, MacBook Pro, M-Audio ProFire 610 and the M-Audio Aziom 61, and want to know if any of the above (Logic Studio and MacBook Pro excluded) are a big mistake. I've been using an Aluminium Powerbook 17" 1.33MHz, and M-Audio MobilePre USB, and an Edirol controller, with guitar rig (and Controller), and Logic Express 7.
I need a set-up that will work as well in the studio, as it does on stage. We tend to plug everything in to the powerbook at the moment, and use Reason to power the synths, guitar rig for the guitars and bass, and logic express plugins for vocals etc.
Anyone have any experience with any of the above?
Cheers,
Adam

Hi Zuelito,
Please read my first paragraph again:
"I gotta RESPECTFULLY take issue with every point you bring up about M-Audio stuff, Zuelito..."
I'm not sure how you can be "slightly put off by the tenor" of my post given everything I said, with the one possible exception being my line about MOTU making crappy hardware - and that was based on personal experience. And while we're talking about the opinions of others, feel free to peruse the Unicornation board - it's full of MOTU users talking about firewire port failures and other hardware issues - so it appears neither of us is alone in our experiences
Seriously, if I was in some way brash or offensive in the way my post came off, I publicly and sincerely apologize. I really try to think about what I say (and how I say it) when posting on the 'net, for this very reason. I thought I simply stated my experience in an informative manner; again, please re-read my post - I hope it comes across as intended.
For what it's worth, I will say (even more clearly) that I've always loved MOTU products in terms of feature set; maybe that's why I've owned almost every product they've ever made! However, in my environment, I simply can't risk hardware failures, and their stuff has let me down too many times to keep rolling the dice. I will also divulge that one of their top tech support guys has acknowledged the firewire port problem. That's a shame, because they do make great stuff, conceptually. I really wish I could take a chance on that new 896mk3, but it ain't gonna happen for me; 6 dead firewire ports is enough of a failure rate for me to give up on them. To be fair, this probably isn't an issue for fixed installations, but I have to make these connections daily while on tour.
Also, I did NOT categorically state that "M-Audio stuff is better than MOTU." Again, if you re-read my post, it should be obvious that all I'm saying is I have a newfound respect for M-Audio, as of the new ProFire series. I also said in my first paragraph that I shared your opinion of M-Audio for a long time!
If this were all about M-Audio's 410 vs. MOTU's Ultralite (or other competition), we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion as I would have agreed with you - but the original poster specifically asked about the newer 610 with Logic, which is what I'm using on one of my rigs. I simply offered my personal experience.
As for drivers, I've not had any problems with M-Audio or their level of support. Just the opposite - they really seem to be on the ball and are way more communicative than other mfrs. I don't know of any other mfr. that supports each OS subrelease in detail like they do, and their development speed seems as fast (if not faster) than anyone else.
Finally, until now I've only owned a few M-Audio pieces (410, 1814), but I can state that they've been flawless. Their audio quality was not 'high end' by any stretch, but I only used them for utility purposes (writing rigs on the road, etc.). Like I said, my main studio stuff has been RME or Apogee for years, and that's the quality level I'm used to - which is why the 610 really surprised me. I also have several friends who do a LOT of touring, many of which rely on M-Audio hardware (mostly 410s). One guy's unit doesn't even have any paint left on it from road abuse - but it still works like a champ after 4 years.
So anyway, this is all just my experience. Hope it doesn't come across as anything but that
Peace,
Jim

M-Audio Profire 610 Adobe Audition 5.5

I can record my bass on input 1 on the front of the 610 but and hear it out of headphones 1 but when I try to listen to what I recorded I have to move the headphones to the 2nd headphone input on the front. Can someone please help me with this?
Thanks

I have a Profire Lightbridge rather than the 610 so I can't be 100% specific but it's likely just a matter of setting up the routings you want to use. On my Profire, in the control panel for the device, there's an option to set what order you want the outputs to be put in--and you want the top of the list to be the output channels you wish to mainly use.
Within Audition you also have various routing options--each track in a multitrack session can be sent to the "main" outs or else to individual outputs. I use either routing depending on what I'm doing. One hint I'd give is that, once you've worked out where you want things to go, use the File/Export/Session as template command to set up one or more templates for your most common session layouts and routings. Setting up routings for a multitrack session can be a bit time consuming so, having all your common ones as a template can be a huge time saver.
I'm not on my sound computer as a write this but, when I get back into the studio I'll see if I can give a bit more details about the M Audio side of things.

M-audio profire 610 driver problème

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Hi Gabe,
Thanks for the video, very kind of you.
When I click on the ProFire in Sound Prefs it comes up immediately, so I'm good with that. When I test the mic through the inputs it comes up, so I'm good with that too.
I noticed that you don't have the ProFire as the input (Logitech Cam instead), just only as the output? So how do you record vocals and guitars through the interface into Logic?
One thing I did notice: when it's just the Audio Midi Setup and the 610 setup running, I select the 610 (either in an aggregate device or on its own). When I click "Configure Speakers" and click the buttons for the left and right speakers at random, the meters don't move exactly when I click (sometimes a few seconds later), and there's data still going through long after I've clicked the speaker buttons. I've switched Firewire ports and still get the same thing. Have you ever gotten that?

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"Clicking back and forth between programs?" What programs?
You just need to tell Logic (Logic Pro>Preferences>Audio>Devices>Coreaudio) which interfaces' in- and outputs to use.

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