Profit Center Accounting

Hi,
We have several Cost Centers and Profit Centers.
Upon creating the master data for Cost center I left the Profit Center assignment a "blank" as one cost center could service several profit centers and I need to capture the data at the initial recording.
Now when I pass the JE thru FB50, the system overwrites the Profit Center I assign in the line item with the "Dummy" profit center...as I have not mentioned any profit center in the Cost center master data.
Is there a work around via substitution or something else?
How can I override this coding block and yet retain the functionality of Dummy PC to post to entries that are not posted with a PC.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks G.Iyer

Hi,
You can go for Validations and substitutions.
Else you can have derivations for profit Centers.
Best Regards
Surya

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