Profit center hierarchy and cost center hierarchy

Hi
What are the things we have to consider to create Profit center hierarchy and cost center hierarchy and what is the need to assign profit center hierarchy to profit center and cost center hierarchy to cost center. What levels does this fall into? Can some one please guide me.
Thanks.

As you would for any other infoobject
Activate the business content hierarchy datasources on R3 for cost centre and profit centre
Go into BW - replicate the metadata
Then just connect via transformations or transfer rules the datasources to yoru infosources or master data objects
Create an infopackage per hierarchy!!!!! - press the button available hirachies from OLTP - click the one you want on the left - fire it off
Then repeat new infopackages for all hierachies

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The requirement is to change the profit center group and cost center group from one node to another. Please remember it is trying to simulate the transactions KCH5 and OKEO programatically.
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I don know if i understood it correctly but If you assign you profit center in your cost center you should be able to get all that you need.
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In Bex - Right now I am displaying Cost Center and Cost Element hierarchy with 12 months of data. I want to display the actual Cost center number next to cost element hierarchy - Can I display in Bex?
Tried to with Structure creating formula variable for Cost Center using replacement path - didn't work. Can you please suggest me how i can achieve this?
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Let me explain it clearly and hope it is clear now...
Designed the report as like this - Cost Center Hierarchy by Cost Element Hierarchy for 12 months of data. But Business agian search in R/3 for actual cost center numbers based on above two hierarchy nodes.
I am trying to achieve this Bex instead of going back to R/3 - so that they can understand how the dollar amount is summed up on which major cost centers.
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Hello,
There is no word called removal in SAP. It would have been properly pronounced if say "Delete".
In case of delete, I do accept, there should not be any planned or actual line items during the fiscal year. If there are any actual or planned lines items you cannot delete the cost center during that period.
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I am unable to understand the functionality of Profit center and cost center, I know that cost center represents area within an organization for which you will like to see the expenses for a particular time period. for example in an organisation we have three cos centers Accounts, HR and Admin. whenever you post an accounting document in FI you will specify the cost center to which the expense relates. but in some cases when you post an expense and give the relative cost center the profit center is also driven by the system. why is this behavior? i mean i have posted an expense not an income then why is system driving the profit center as well?
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Hi,
Cost center & Profit Center are organizational units within the enterprise structure , created for better internal control.
As the name suggests Cost Center is the lowest level of the organizational unit representing a defined location of cost incurrence or otherwise to which you can meaningfully assign the cost(both direct & Indirect).
Profit Center is an organizational unit in accounting ,where management would require to see the profitability & fix the responsibility. It may be each plant/division of the company .
If you consider the Plant is the Profit center, you can take the various deptts in the Plant as cost centers. you can draw a balance sheet & profit & loss account statement at profit center level but this will be for your internal use.From this you can know the ROI on particular area. Profit centers are assigned inside the cost center so when you update cost center, profit centers are updated automatically.
Where as Segments are used for legal reporting of your accounting standard as per IFRS. Both Business Area & Segments are more or less same with some technical difference.
Business area is a free organizational unit. It can be derived through cost center or can be entered manually.
But segment is a dependent organizational unit. It is defined & attached inside the profit center master data. It can’t be entered manually.
SAP suggest to use the Segment concept.
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Hi Ajay,
Thanks for your reply.profit center changes are working with analysis period changes.
i have one more issue here,i can't change hierarchy in cost center and getting errors..
Message no. KS042
Diagnosis
Field Hierarchy Area to be changed must be unique for the entire interval. You selected a change interval which does not include the entire period. Any change in the field would result in an inconsistency.
I have try to change time depended field in configuration.system is not allowing for field "KHINR" in OKEG TC.
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CO, which table decribes "cost center" and "cost center group"?

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now I have the transaction KP06. Maybe through customizing the user has built a "cost center group" for some "cost center".
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RD
Edited by: Marching Dai on Jun 16, 2008 2:05 PM

Hi Arun,
Please check this link
http://www.erpgenie.com/abap/tables_fi.htm
Please check CKPE --->CO-PC Cost Object Hierarchy: Individual Objects
CSKA Cost Elements (Data Dependent on Chart of Accounts)
CSKB Cost Elements (Data Dependent on Controlling Area)
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our HR and FI system are in different client, and HR need post document to FI with cost center, but the cost center is from FI client.
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Hi,
We are doing same thing, but not able to send hierarchy to HR system through ALE. Can you please send me the process that you have followed.
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Profit Center deriviation from Cost Center

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I have just configured CCA and PCA for one of our new company code.
I have created 3 cost centers like A, B, C and subsequently same have been created as profit centers too.
Maintained the profit center in the cost center master data.
No other derivation rules has been configured so far.
Now i am trying to do a expense posting with F-02, after entering cost center, system is updating profit center field with a dummy profit center only.
Even i f a changed the dummy to normal profit center, again system replacing the normal PC with dummy PC.
I want like...when i enter CC as A, then i need to derive PC also as A for the line item. ( For both expense items as well as revenue items).
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Hi Chintan,
Thanks for your quick response.
We have already implemented the said SAP note.
Let me explain my requirement again.
We have IOA, CCA, PCA active in our system.
For every expense or revenue line item Internal order is mandatory.
apart from we have 3 cost centers and 3 profit centers ( 1:1 )
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1) users are going to decide the cost center, while posting FI direct entries only. So while doing F-02, they will enter CC, and IO manually and at the same time PC should derive from cost center master data ( as it is 1:1 only).
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can anyone please explain me why do we have cost centers and internal orders?
If we can track cost to cost center then why do we need internal orders?
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when you are posting a document and if the g/l is created as a cost element then
you have to either assign a cost center, profit center, internal order etc
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