Profit centers Blocking

Dear All ,
I want to block profit centers (Not thru Basis ), so that no posting can happen to these profit centers .
How to do the same ? pl guide
Regards

Hi,
You can lock the profit center in the indicators tab.
You can use the lock indicator to lock a profit center for postings. The lock only applies to the selected time interval. If the profit center is assigned to an object that receives a posting, the system displays an error message and the data is not posted.
Note: If the lock indicator is set, no consolidation units will be generated for the profit center in question in EC-CS. Assigned company codes are normally decisive for the formation of consolidation units. If the lock indicator is set, however, the profit center is locked for postings in all company codes.
VVR

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I need to pull a report to display the list of profit centers blocked and the date / period on which it was blocked.
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Pavan.

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I guess, you will have to look at CDHDR/CDPOS tables for this information. Go to CDHDR with object class 'PRCTR' and object = controlling area + profit centre (mind leading zeros, if profit centre starts with digit). Get the change document number + info you need (who changed and when) and check in CDPOS what change was that, if it was for the blocking indicator.
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My client wants to deactivate all cost centers and profit centers and create new cost centers and new profit centers for new fiscal year 2009.
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1. Putting an end date to the existing cost center and creating the New cost center now itself in the system with effective date as 1st April 09?
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2.     Select lock indicator in profit center master record
3.     Write LSMW to that
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Hi Srinivas,
You have to declare balance sheet accounts as relevant for PCA inside 3KEH transaction in config. So you mark the balance sheet accounts that should appear in PCA in 3KEH with a default profit center which can be overwritten with the use entry.
Fixed Assets, AR/AP and WIP can be transferred into PCA at the monthend. PCA is a separate ledger, has its own set of tables and reports. Inventory and other balance sheet accounts are posted into PCA online.
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Am running FBL3N-G/L Line Item Display, and am trying to get PROFIT CENTERS for Balanace sheet type of accounts, but Its not showing up.
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1) Why its so?
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3) Functional owner said(tele talk, no voice clear!!!) that, the Profit Centers are NOT get updated UNTIL month end, unless run the F.5D, 1KEK, KE5Z tx.s., which inturn system copies the profit centers(I dont know that, From where it copies) and posts/updates(I dont know, Wht get updated?), so, he said, relying on ??(is it BSEG??????) is not works out!!
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i have perhaps for some of you a simple question but it bothers me alot.
Imagine we are using Cost centers and Internal Orders. For them we create statistical key figures using transaction KB31N.
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Message was edited by:
Karol W

Dear Karol,
Here the some infirmation is about Profit center related and cost center.hope this infirmation will helps you
You would need check the design of PCA and what the business wants to use PCA for. For example do you want to produce P&L Statements and or Balance Sheets by Profit centers etc.
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Default profit centers Plant wise for Balance Sheet tax relevant Items.

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We have an issue in profit center acccounting.
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