Purchase order created from sale order ( third party)

Hi...
In third party sale, when sale order is created in SAP system will automatically creates Purchase requisition which can be converted into Purchase order,
My requirement is i need to identify against which sale order the above purchase order is created, do this purchase order has any reference of sale order.
Is there any way where i can track the purchase order number entered while cretion of sale order in the purchase order generated after creation of sales order.
Suggestion will be worth rewarding.
Regards
SARFARZ

Hi
I think you are little bit confused.The PO number entered while creating the Sales order is nothing but the customer Purchase order.This we may receive in different forms.Hard copy or Mail etc.We will give this number as a reference in sales order.
Where as for third party orders, depending on the schedule line category (SD), PR will be generated.This will PR will be converted in to PO.In PO item detail, you can find account assignment tab, where you can find the sales order number.
If you want to link customer PO to the SAP PO, then you need to link the two tables.
Regards
Ramakrishna

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