Query on pricing Scales in LSMW

Hai,
I have a problem on scales, In LSMW through recording method i am creating pricing condition using XK15 transaction. But my problem is if material has 2 or 3 scales, at end of batch input session i am getting last scale value
Ex : Matnr      Amount
        P-100            500
Scales: 1        500
             10      300
             20      100.
After end of batch input session, it is showing only 20    100 scale for P-100 material.
Could any body help me.
Thanks,
Raju.

Hi,
I think you need to push 'Inset Line' - green plus button and enter the scales. This would create an additional blank line which would enable you to create the new dataset in a blank line in the tablecontrol.
But I prefer to load the data using LSMW in either of the following methods:
Object               0070   Condition record
Method               0000
Program name         RV14BTCI
Program type         B   Batch input
or
Message type         COND_A                      Conditions: Master data for price determination
Basic type           COND_A02                    ALE condition records
Hope this helps.
Best Regards, Murugesh AS

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