Query Regarding Cash discount In F110
Dear all,
We have a payment terms 0003(14 days 3% cash Discount,20 Days 2% cash discount & within 30 days due net).
I have posted vendor invoice with this payment terms on 15.09.2009 & making payment to the vendor on the same day to avail 3% cash discount through F110 but when we go to edit proposal after scheduling proposal the system through an error Company codes XXXX/XXXX do not appear in proposal 15.09.2009 TEST; correct.
It do not allow us to make payment to vendor until the invoice becomes due.because of this we cannot take cash discount from vendors.
We have checked Max cash discount in All company codes in FBZP.
Regards,
D RANA
Hi Deepak,
Try giving the next run date after the due date say after 35 days or si and keep the other parameters as you are using now. The payment should get included. Normally, SAP will check if the the document is getting over due or not in the next payment run date and includes it in the current only then.
Please revert.
Thanks and Regards,
Anit
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I have setup a payment term for client which is 1% disc if paid within 10 days of invoice date. On running automatic payment program F110, irrespective of no. of days, the payment program generates discount of 1%. (I am using standard payment method C-cheque)
My doubt is why SAP is applying cash discount in F110 even when the payment is being made after 10 days say after a month.
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The problem you're experiencing is caused by your payment term configuration, which probably has 1% 5 days but does not include how to handle cash discount after that date e.g. 0% 6 days. You can test this quite simply (presuming you have access to a test system) by changing the payment term configuration to include 0% for 6 days then post a vendor invoice with the same details provided in your message and process for payment. Alternatively find an existing vendor invoice with payment term you mention and double click into the vendor line item and add 6 days to the Cash discount days 2 field but leave the Cash discount percentage 2 field blank (see example below) then process for payment. I have also pasted the text from OSS note 48384 below which refers to this issue.
Vendor line item - Additional details tab
Payt terms XXXX Days/percent 5 1.000 % 6 %
Expected results (based on details mentioned in your message):
Payment run posting date: 15/03/10 - Posting date of next payment run: 16/03/10
cash discount still valid and should be deducted
Payment run posting date: 16/03/10 - Posting date of next payment run: 17/03/10
cash discount not valid and should not be deducted
SAP Note 48384 - Cash discount is taken although item overdue
Note Language: English Version: 4 Validity: Valid Since 20.02.1997
Summary
Symptom
Vendor invoice is paid with cash discount by the payment program
although the cash discount period has expired, the "Always max. cash
discount" flag in configuration Payment program is not set and no cash
discount agreement is noted in the document either.
Additional key words
F110, payment run
Cause and prerequisites
If in the terms of payment only, for example, 10 days 3 % and nothing else has been defined (further fields are not filled at all), the payment program has no instructions as to how the payment is to be made if the first cash discount period has expired. Nevertheless, the payment is made with cash discount terms 1 under these circumstances.
Solution
Choose other terms of payment.
Header Data
Release Status: Released for Customer
Released on: 19.02.1997 23:00:00
Master Language: German
Priority: Correction with medium priority
Category: Consulting
Primary Component FI-AP Accounts Payable
The Note is release-independent -
Dear gurus, please advise in this issue
I have a vendor with 2%10 specified in the vendor master and also on the invoice- pmt method is check.
I checked to see if 2%10 is defined as 2% discount if paid within 10 days else due net by 30 days.And this seems to be OK.
When I ran F110, the payment program(for check) is not picking up this invoice untill 30 days from baseline date.
and on 30th day the f110 program picked up this invoice, I wonder why the cash discount is not being taken/ considered by the payment program.
Max cash discount is NOT checked in configuration.But I think this need NOT to be checked, if not please suggest.
Please advise what changes needs to be done to get F110 pick up such invoices to take cash discount.
I understand that if "Max cash disc" is checked SAP takes cash discount even after discount period.
Thank you
MSJHi
cash dicount related setting in FBZP but when autometically pick.and other once vendor master data check the setting.
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i have an serious issue in our project:
for cash discount condition type SKTO we are giving 2% cash discount based on payment terms : 14 days 2%, 30 net
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and i raise the sales order , and did the delivery and did the billing document
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it has to show only after making the incoming payment by customer
then only it has to show n copa, but the main problem is system immediately showing 2% cash discount in copa?
pls try to resolve this , very urgent,
Thanks&Regards
Venkat.DhanemkulaHi venkat, did you figure out the solution. if yes please reply back cos im having the same problem !
waiting for your reply
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Hi,
When I am processing vendor payment through Automatic payment transaction (F110), system is calculating vendor payment net of cash discount though the payment is overdue. For e.g., due date is 10th July 09, but I am processing payment 15th July, even in this case cash discount is being deducted out of payment made to vendor.
In FBZP we have not checked maximum cash discount. Even then why system is calculating cash discount for overdue payment.
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Invoice and Credit memo is created with the reference to PO, but when the payment is made to the vendor through F110 the cash discount is calculated on the credit memo even though it has passed the due date.
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In the "Cash discount and tolerances" section, I'm thinking that you'll find that the "Max.cash discount" check box is checked. This check box tells F110 to always take the discount, even if the terms have expired. If you uncheck the box, then F110 will only take the discount within terms.
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I am running F110 to execute direct debits for certain customers in Europe. Everything works fine except for one "error"
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==> Display log for invoice # 2, $100.-:
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Document 8130000263 line item 001 via EUR 100.00
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Hello Experts,
I am trying to query the list of all Open AP Invoices which are eligible for Cash Discounts.
Scenario : For Instance in OEC Computers,I have the following Open documents in SAP
DocNum CardCode PostingDate DueDate PaymentTerms
110 V10000 06/18/2010 07/19/2010 2P10Net30 ( Eligible for 2 % discount if paid within 10 days from posting date)
114 V20000 06/18/2010 08/09/2010 2P10Net45 ( Eligible for 2 % discount if paid within 10 days from posting date)
Let us say a user wants to run a check today and would like to know what documents are eligible for cash discounts based on duedate 07/02/10.
I am using the following query but does not seems to be working exactly:
select t0.DocNum,t0.CardCode,t0.CardName
,t0.DocTotal as Amount
,t0.DocDate as PostingDate
,t0.DocDueDate as DueDate
,t1.PymntGroup as PaymentTerms
,t2.Discount
,t1.ExtraDays
,t2.NumOfDays
from OPCH t0 inner join OCTG t1 on t0.GroupNum=t1.GroupNum
inner join CDC1 t2 on t1.DiscCode=t2.CdcCode
where T0.DocDate>= '[%0]' AND T0.DocDueDate<= '[%1]'+DATEADD(DAY,10,t0.DocDate) and t0.DocStatus='O'
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
PraneethHi Gordon,
This works fine , but the user needs to input Due Date. Based on the due date, the query should return the documents that are eligible for cash discounts.
For Instance :
Assume that there are two Open AP Invoice Documents 110,114 which has a posting date of 06/18/10.
There are eligible for cash discounts if paid with in 10 days from posting date i.e in this case 06/28/10.
Now the user wants to input the due date as 07/02/10 , because he would like all open AP Invoices that are eligible for cash discount with in this due date.
Since 06/28/10 falls with in the range of the user due date 07/02/10 the query should retrieve data.
Any advise would be appreciated.
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As for your query...When realized loss/gain in that double click on line item you can update profit center.
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when we allocation incoming payments to open AR, discounts might be taken from customers.
We use FB05 for this.
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I tried your scenario in a test system and it work well (i.e. VAT line is generated), the only ways it does not work (and rightly so in my opinion) are:
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i had a query in which i needed the solution for the query , My query is that i need to know that if i take the cash discount terms of payment as 60 days and some vendor pays me before 60 days i.e around 30 days then please let me know that whether the system would calculate for 30 days or will show the cash discount for 60 days .
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Please go through the link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/e5/0783f54acd11d182b90000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
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Reg: material cash discounts
hello friends,
I understand that cash discounts taken from vendors will do settings in OBXU, OBB8.
for MIGO cash discounts where we do the cash discount configuration, is that in OBYC, if so let me know the transaction we use for that.
i knew that for cash discount G/L account we select the post automatically setting in FS00.
actually user posting MIRO transations, with payment terms as 2% discount for 10 days later that full payment, and baseline date is taken as document date in OBB8.
but after 10 days also system is calculating discount for MIRO transactions.
Please let me know in this regard.
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HKHi
Calculating discount after the due date is may be due to the no. of grace days mentioned in the Grace days due date field under Specifications for Clearing transactions Tab in OBA3 Customer/Vendor Tolerances. Remove the no. of grace days mentioned from the field and do manual clearing to avoid discount after the due date.
Grace days are Number of days by which the payment deadlines may be exceeded when manual payments are made. In the payment entry facilities, the grace days are added to the payment deadlines. This means that the system will accept cash discount deductions and net payments even after the original deadline. If the days in arrears are displayed during open item processing, the system reduces them by the number of grace days.
(OR)
Calculating discount after the due date is may be due to the no. of tolerance days mentioned in the Tolerance days for payable field under Cash discount and tolerances Tab in OBVU (FBZP-All Company Codes-Maintain Payment Program-APP Configuration). Remove the no. of tolerance days mentioned from the field and do automatic clearing in F110 to avoid discount after the due date.
Tolerance days for payables specifies the number of days by which the cash discount periods and period for the due date for net payment may be exceeded. When determining the due date, the system adds the number of days specified here to the dates. Payment is then sometimes made after the exact date in the terms of payment.
Thanks
Naresh K.
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