Questions about KT3 Ultra/Ultra2

First: what's the difference between the Ultra and Ultra2 (I'm talking the raid version of each)? The specs are nearly idtentical. The only difference I saw was more USB2 support in the Ultra2.
Second: the RAID versions have an IDE3 and 4. The specs say they support a maximum of four IDE devices. Yet 2 on IDE1 + 2 on IDE2 + 1 on IDE3 + 1 on IDE4 = 6 devices. Does using IDE3 and 4 disable IDE1 or something? (I'm assuming from the manual that IDE3 and 4 don't support a master and slave on each, hence the one device each above.)
Third: anandtech.com found the Ultra was stable with all of its memory banks filled (a rarity in the MBs reviewed). Does the Ultra2 share this distinction?
Four: both the Ultra and Ultra2 (all models, but especially the RAID versions) have support for the thermal diode in the Athlon XP, right?
Five: anyone know when MBs based on the KT400 are due out?

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It also has full bluetooth functionality.
The Ultra2-BR is just shipped with the BT module.. and if you use it you loose 1 USB2 connector..
Reading the manuals..
Ultra2
Clock Generator
100/133 MHz clocks are supported.
Ultra
Clock Generator
100/133/166MHz clocks are supported.
The ultra2 can't use PC2700 ??! or just a typo..

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    Originally posted by Reijin
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    Hi
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    Originally posted by osnavi
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  • PC Component power requirements on a KT3 Ultra-ARU: ANSWERS - At last

    G'Day Folk,
    First, my PC specs are as below in my sig.
    Second, I know this is an old motherboard, but I would like to keep it going, and make the best of it for another year or so. Any help would be greatly appreciated, and would help two other users!
    Symptoms:
    Minor stability and performance issues, mostly in games, simulators, or doing high resolution photographics processing. I bought three machines with similar specs in 2002, for my brother, father, and myself. Each has had some hard to nail down, intermittent problems. My brother's PC has had a new motherboard and processor after failure of the KT3, but still has some niggling problems. He also has an XP 2600+ running at 65C !
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    Diagnosis:
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    4. I have a GeForce 4 Ti 4600 AGP graphics card. (Okay, it's not an MSI, but the power should be similar across brands.) There are several threads that suggest that this card uses lots of +3.3V and +5V power from the AGP slot. (Wonkanoby?) However, none give actual Amps for each rail. Anybody know?
    5. In case anybody knows, I can't find actual power for an Audigy 2 ZS either. Any suggestions?
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    PPS: Sorry for the long post, but it's an interesting, and important topic, isn't it?
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    Leadtek GeForce4 Ti 4600 Winfast A250 Ultra MyVIVO 128MB (AGP)
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
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    CD&DVD Plextor PX320A & Pioneer DVR-A09P
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    Try the link below, this will tell you what you need. After you added all you hardware and get the final power result add 50% to this and you will have the proper size P/S needed for your system. You can even make a list of future upgrades you want to do and that way you can see what P/S will work for you now in the present and what you would need in the future, just remember to add 50% to what ever total you add up.
    For example, if the P/S calculator says you have a total draw of 279W then you would add 50% to this;
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    http://www.extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp
    Below I have pasted a piece that I made for determing P/S which may help you to;
    Resets are a P/S issue and lock-ups are most likely due to your graphic card, with that said I will give you a table with which you can determine the proper P/S for your system and a little info just for info.
    I must also add that never trust software to tell you your voltages, this includes the BIOs as the BIOs is just a piece of software. To properly check the voltage one must use a digi-VOM.
    A 7200rpm HD draws around 20 watts, this 20 watts includes both the 5v & 12V rail.
    HD and CD's generally are figured at 2 Amps per device, let’s brake this down some.
    Spin-up: 12V x 1.3A + 5V x 650mA = 19W
    Read/Write/Idle: 12V x 350mA + 5V x 700mA = 7.75W
    Seek: 12V x 675mA + 5V x 725mA = 12W
    Those would be typical for a 7200 rpm IDE drive. As you can see a HD requires more power at start-up then during actual operation. This is why sometimes a PC takes a few tries to start up before it will actually make a successful boot and once it boots to windows all seems well or sometimes a occasional restart, which would indicate a weak/ bad P/S.
    Now to find the power used by the CPU you can check either AMD or Intel for the spec sheets on that CPU or you can follow this link that has tons of CPU ratings, CPU specs.
    Some more basic mathematics… When a 12-volt circuit is drawing 10 amps, it is consuming 120 WATTS of electrical power. 12 Volts X 10 Amps = 120 WATTS.
    This is the formula: P = E x I
    P - Watt (power)
    E – Voltage (electrical pressure)
    I – Amperage (current flow)
    Serial/PS-2 ports draw <35mA and if you have USB ports then they have a maximum of 500mA per port, again only if they are used- no use means no draw.
    The PCI slots are allowed 5A of the +5V, 0.5A of the +12V and 7.6A of the 3.3V Max per slot, again that is if the slots are used. So if the serial ports, PS-2 and USB ports are being used you are looking at around 5A draw on the MB, which would be around 20 Watts.
    So now we can add things up. (This is just an example of a basic system)
    MB=20W
    CPU= 60W, used as a norm.
    HD=20W
    CDRW=25W
    DVD=20W
    Graphic card=15W / newer GF4 and ATI 9000 and up= 35W
    RAM 10 Watts per 128 MB
    Network Card 5 Watts
    Average per PCI Card 8 Watts
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    Now this will fall on different rails and that is were things get tricky, because as you see in my above break down of the HD that a HD use's both the 12V & 5V rail. This is why it is important that the 12V rail be at least 18 Amps if you plan on having more then 1 HD and case fans. Then you have the 3.3V & 5V rails that need to be strong too, the 3.3v rail is actually not so important with newer DDR MB and today’s CPU’s as it is mainly supplying the PS-2 ports power as well as some device cards. Most newer MB use the 5v and 12v rails mainly to supply the demands of today’s devices.
    Now this 200W is the bare min what is needed for things to run but in the real world you will want to add 50% to the 200W for your min P/S need, this allows room for spikes and heavy demands and a little head room to add hardware in the future.

  • MSI MS-6380E v1.0 Mobo - KT3 Ultra

    Hi
    I have updated this board with the most recent BIOS (v5.7) from MSI website.
    This update supports AMD Barton XP3000+ (FSB333) CPU (For KT3 Ultra2 Only)
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    Henry, please don't feel offended. This was written before I posted (remember question is will barton work):
    Me:        "No Barton because max fsb is 133mhz"
    JEWilson: "Y - but the KT3 Ultra has the KT333 chipset which will allow you to run FSB 333Mhz for RAM"
    Grayone: "Try your 3200 in it and see if it will run it at a 166fsb.  The bios may show it as an unknown processor or one with a lessor model number
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    You:       "Yes you can use PC2700 (333) memory, it shows that in the manual."
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  • KT3 Ultra (2) Bios version 5.7 released

    MSI has now released bios version 5.7 for the KT3 Ultra (ARU) and KT3 Ultra2. Fixes posted are:-
    Support AMD Barton XP3000+ (FSB333) CPU (For KT3 Ultra2 only)
    Add CPU Halt Command Detection in the Bios Setup
    Fixed ATI 8500 AGP Card cannot be used
    The new bios can be downloaded here:-
    KT3 Ultra (ARU)
    Link
    KT3 Ultra2
    Link

    Juras. This thread may help answer your question Link  

  • MOVED: KT3 Ultra + Barton -- overclocking results

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    KT3 Ultra + Barton --> overclocking results

    I'll try to answer a few questions raised:
    zip227:
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    Do not use "Auto", always configure it manually, especially if you want to go higher than 133.
    Your PC2700 allows you to set the FSB at 166. Since your CPU is unlocked, I would try setting 12*166, for a start. If temperature remains under 55°C (idle) and if an hour of Prime95 does not give you an error, then increase the coefficient 12-->12.5-->13-->...  until you reach the temperature limit or get errors.
    Okay:
    Thats the whole point! The first KT3 Ultra1 does not officially support Bartons, but in practice, it does!
    MSI never gave an explanation as to why they pretend it does not work, as far as I know.
    There is no PCI/AGP lock, but there is a PCI/AGP divider, as explained in the original post. The consequence is: you may run into instabilities at FSBs between 145 and 152, but it may automagically work with an FSB above 152!
    BarryB:
    Since my Barton is locked, I just incremented FSB 2-3 steps at a time.
    At 178, it would not even load Windows.
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    At 175, it works fine. I ran Prime95 for a couple of hours, and CPU temperature under load maxed at 63°C.
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