RADEON 9800 cooling fan

I have a RADEON 9800 Pro Mac Edition 256MB in my QuickSilver 2002 mounted in the AGP slot. The 9800 cooling fan is very loud (grinding sound) after a cold startup then gets quiet after it warms up. I have looked at third party cooling fans for this RADEON and I have found the Zalman v700cu and the Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer 1, Rev. 2 that seem to be compatible. From the images of these two coolers it looks like the two mounting screws that project out the back of the garphic card are very close to the lower memory slot in my QuickSilver. I don't use the PCI slot next to the AGP slot so I know the coolers will be OK there.
My question is, has anyone actually tried one of these coolers in a QuickSilver 2002 and is there enough clearance between the mounting posts on the cooler and the memory card to prevent them from touching?

ATI fans are notoriously bad (read that as cheap). You will know the fan is going bad when you hear a loud whine or grinding noise after a cold startup or during heavy use. The fan went bad on my 9800 Pro 256 after just 5 months. I had to send the card to ATI for repair - nearly 3 weeks to get the card back. The replacement ATI fan started making noise after another 90 days. I can't see doing this on a regular schedule for the three year warranty term so I replaced the stock fan with an Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer 1, Rev. 2. It's easy to install. So quiet that I can't hear it run and my computer case and power supply fans run slower and with less noise than ever before due to the Arctic fan venting warm air out of the computer.
The Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer 1, Rev. 2 installed perfectly with no modifications and minimal effort. It has a 6 year warranty. I consider this modification the best thing you can do to protect the $250 (or whatever you pay) investment you make with the RADEON card. It's better than waiting for the stock fan to fail and cause your 9800 to melt down. Technically installing the Arctic fan voids the ATI warranty but I believe I could reinstall the old stock fan if the card needs other warranty repairs without anyone noticing the switch was ever made.
So your answers are yes and yes although I never had the monitor problem you describe. The ATI card is a good choice - keep it then download and install the latest drivers from the ATI/AMD web site and do yourself a favor and buy an Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer model for your card. Install it when you start to hear the stock fan going bad. You will be glad you did.
PS - many thanks to FangSuede for his excellent advice given to me.

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Radeon 9800 Replacement Fan

Hi, my Radeon 9800 128MB edition just died. I am looking for a replacement. This is for a quicksilver.
3 out of 4 of my PCI slots are filled, so not a whole lot of room. I am worried about just any old fan due to size and maybe incompatible power connectors. Would either of these be good choices? I don't want to spend a lot of money, so am trying to stay under $20.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835888112
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835114024

Hi-
The screws holding the fan to the heatsink on the 9800 are either #2 Phillips or #1 Phillips. I have two different versions of the 9800 cooler here on my desk, and there is one of each. Anyhow, it is a simple matter of removing three Phillips screws.
The Zalman tutorial that you linked is a bit complicated, as the individual chose to connect to the board, and install a speed controller. Typical installation would be to simply connect the power from the Zalman to a 4 pin Molex connector (like the hard drive power connectors). I have a 9800 with the Zalman 900 CU, and the power connected to the molex power only (off a hard drive power connector) works very well.
BTW, the Zalman (either 700 Cu or 900Cu) is a very good cooler, and works better than the OEM cooler.
No need to complicate things unless you want to.....
If it is in the adjacent slot and blowing directly on the card, seems like it would help at least a little.
It would help at least a little, but the 9800 needs alot of proper cooling. I would advise against a PCI fan only for cooling the 9800. The 9800 is a hot running card, and a properly functioning cooler on the board is an important item to keep the 9800 alive and healthy.
Don't let the fan replacement scare you. It isn't that major of a job. Keeping devices working as they were intended is better than cobbling a "hope it works" solution together.

Radeon 9800 Pro fan not working

Last Fall I purchased a used Radeon 9800 Pro card to install in my Sawtooth. When I finally got around to flashing the card with Mac-compatible firmware, and then attempted to use the card, I discovered that the fan was not working. As I recall, the card worked briefly under a light load, but could not handle a heavy video load. How likely is it that the card will work properly when I replace the stock fan (with the Vantec all-in-one -- BTW, thanks, japamac, for pointing that fan out as a space-saving alternative to the Zalman VF here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7785260 ),
or is it quite possible that the card is fried and won't ever perform adequately again. Is it possible that I will install the new fan, only to learn that the card still buckles under a heavy load?

Hi-
With the 9800 Pro, if the card is run for any amount of time without a fan, the chances are good that the GPU is cooked.
How cooked, will only be shown by putting a fan on the card, and trying it.
but how to know whether this is the case beforehand?
Pull the fan and put a replacement on. That's all you can do.
Get a replacement bury frame fan, and replace the fan in the ATI heatsink.
If it doesn't work with a new fan, sell the set as junk on eBay.
You'll get, at least, the cost of the fan out of it.

Sapphire Radeon 9800 PRO, 256 MB using ZALMAN VGA COOLER ZM80C-HP with

Hi, I need some help...
I own a MSI 875P NEO FIS2R Mainboard and Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9800 PRO 256 MB VGA card...
Meanwhile Sapphire released the same VGA card just like above mentioned but then equipped it with the ZALMAN Heatpipe VGA Cooler, type ZM80C-HP and called that videocard Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9800 PRO 256 MB ULTIMATE
I know the same separate ZALMAN VGA Cooler is available in the shops here since a few days and that I can equip my 9800 PRO too with that Cooler but I really don't know if the videocard plus the zalman cooler will fit on my 875P Neo FIS2R mainboard... Cuz of the little space between the AGP slot and the Canterwood Bridge (North Bridge)... ?(
Anyone know if it's possible to do this/how to arrange this??? :(
Thanx in advance... :D

It will fit. But why replace the original heatsink? It works ok without the fan. Take a look here

Extra cooling needed for G4 MDD Dual 1.25 w/Radeon 9800?

I'm juggling graphics cards in my G4s. Some months back, I received a G4 MDD Dual 1.25 with a Radeon 9000. I migrated all my stuff from my G4 Digital Audio over to that, including my GeForce 4Ti card, and after some downloading of drivers, I was able to get the G4 DA running with the 9000.
A short time ago, I recieved a G4 MDD Dual 1.0 Ghz with a Radeon 9800 Pro 128M card (that's what the label says, anyway...). Two things were a little different, and they are what prompt my question. First, one of the PCI slot "covers" had been removed. This could simply be that the preior owner removed a card they needed for something else, of course. And second, there was rather a lot of foam (like for chair cushions) stuffed in places. I'm thinking that was to quiet the machine down.
So anyway, if I move the 9800 into my dual 1.25, will I need to "help" the cooling in any way? I'm thinking not, but since I've never dealt with these cards before, then perhaps there is common knowledge out there I'm unaware of.
Then, I'll have a G4/DA with 1/2Ghz Sonett processor & GeForce 4Ti, and a G4 MDD Dual 1.0 Ghz with Radeon 9000 to move on to new owners...

The Radeon 9800 is a warm card, but it isn't so terrible that the MDD can't use one.
The most important step for keeping the DP MDD cool is to enable Nap mode using CHUD:
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Another important task is to replace the thermal compound on the Radeon 9800.
The cards are all older than the thermal compound was meant to last.
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and
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Use Arctic Cooling MX-4.
Also use it on the processors to get additional cooling benefits.
Use of Nap mode and replacement of the thermal compound should be all that is required to avoid heat issues.
The following are all additional cooling ideas to consider.
The mention of a PCI cooler is a good one. Placed along side the Radeon, it can help to rid the case of hot air produced by the graphics card.
This one is good help with minimum noise:
http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-cyclo-blue-slotcooler.html
The Radeon 9800 has a minimalist fan and heatsink.
The aluminum heatsink doesn't disipate heat as fast as copper, and the fans tend to bake out and fail.
Replacement with a third party cooler is a good idea, but the design of the MDD makes that difficult.
This little Vantec cooler is a good option for the 9800 in a MDD which has the memory slots filled:
http://www.vantecusa.com/en/product/view_detail/95
If the memory slots have two 1 GB DIMMs installed in the two slots furthest from the graphics card, then this cooler is fine:
http://www.vantecusa.com/en/product/view_detail/97

Arctic Cooler Silencer 1 for Radeon 9800

Anyone know where I can find a Arctic Cooler Silencer 1 for Radeon 9800? Or do you know if the Acceleron s2 will fit in a G4 Sawtooth with this v card?
Thanks

Hi-
Just don't let the fan get dirty. The 9800 is a hot card, and too much heat is bad. Since you also have a processor upgrade, you are adding lots of heat. The heat also affects the PSU, because it is all removed through the PSU, and hot air doesn't cool well. Hot PSU's, don't produce good power.
Another cooling option (and a good one) is a PCI slot fan that exhausts to the outside of the tower.
This Thermaltake has really good airflow, and will help cool your entire system.

ATI/Radeon 9800 Pro 128 AGP 4x/2x in Gigabit Ethernet dual 450 PMac G4

Hi,
This is my first time posting to these discussion group... I've been going through related threads and have not found an answer to my problem...
I have a Gigabit Ethernet dual 450 G4. Awhile ago I upgraded the processor to a Sonnet 1.8ghz so I could run Leopard.
I just bough the ATI/Radeon 9800 Pro 128 AGP 4x/2x video card. I researched around and that seemed to be a card that would work in my machine. I even read a review on Amazon where someone had also upgraded to the 1.8 processor used this card with no issues.
I do have an older monitor - Apple Studio Display CRT with the ADC connector. So I also bought the Apple DVI to ADC adapter kit.
I installed the card and do not get any picture at all - I believe I have installed everything correctly. I'm pretty sure I can hear the fan on the video card in the machine. The monitor is getting power from the adapter since the button lights up when I press it - but it does not stay lit -- the monitor never turns on. Using my old graphics card the monitor makes a little "beep" when it turns on.
In reading the other topics I am wondering if it might be a power issue? According to Other World Computing's profile my machine has a max of 220 watts. Although they suggest this video card as one the will work in my machine.
I have disabled the hard drive that came with the machine (too small) and am using two Maxtor hard drives that I added - one ATA (120gb) and one SATA (500gb) that is connected to an SATA pci card. I also have two additional pci cards with usb 2.0/firewire ports.
In looking at the topics here I came across the link about taping the 3 and 11 pins on the video card. Even though the card I have is 4x/2x not 8x I thought I'd give it a shot. That did not work either.
Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

I don't wish to sound redundant here, but I've been reviewing the vendor's page:
It's OK- I don't mind beating this dead horse....
The maker says such to protect themselves from possible claims that may arise due to over loaded systems and power problems when their card is installed in said system.
Of course, 300w would be nice, but they didn't even specify the PSU rating a couple years ago. The Sawtooth, with it's 237w PSU, used to be listed as a compatible machine for the 9800...... They just didn't consider how far a Sawtooth might be modded.
Within reason, the early G4's (Sawtooths) are capable of using the Radeon 9800 Pro. The GE has the same 338w PSU as the DA (they are interchangeable), so there is plenty of power for the 9800.
One thing to remember, the requirements of the ADC port of the AGP slot are removed by using a non ADC card. This really changes the calculations of the power available.
It's kinda' a long post, but, if you care to get ALL the details, check the following:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7065653&#7065653
I think you'll be satisfied with the explanation.......
Which leaves your second, and very appropriate, point.
The main enemy of all, though, isn't power. Heat is the biggest concern.
Reducing heat/increasing cooling by using a third party fan on the 9800 is highly recommended. The 9800 is a hot card, and the stock fan is prone to early failure.
Adding additional cooling to remove the extra heat produced by the 9800, by using an exausting PCI fan, will also help the PSU provide adequate voltage to the system, by reducing the amount of hot air moving out of the PSU.
Super heated air moving through the PSU reduces the cooling ability of the PSU. A hot PSU doesn't produce reliable power.
So, add the 9800, add some cooling, and enjoy!

Radeon 9800 Pro (128MB) on G4 with lots of artifacts

Hi there,
I recently bought a radeon 9800 pro (mac version) over ebay. I put it into a d1ghz (quicksilver with 1.5GB of Ram. Everything seems to work fine, however, the screen flickers ever so slightly after the ripple effect in the dashboard. Yet this is not really what bugs me: Any game (and probably other applications as well) which uses Core Image produces huge artifacts. There are just random screen-filling bits sticking out the ground...
How do I get rid of this? I already checked all the connections, ran software update, downloaded the most recent drivers and tried downclocking the graphics card.... (I also think that I cleared NV- and PRAM, but I am not sure... )
What am I forgetting?
Thanks already, dl33

Hi. I had the same problem, but it was a 500 mhz Sawtooth. I was told it was either a power issue or a heat issue. So I upgraded the power supply from 237 watts to 400 watts. It seemed to help, but it started doing the same thing. After wasting a lot of time and money with power supplies and soldering and adding fans, etc, I looked at the fan on the card. Like you, I bought mine used. The guy said it worked flawlessly. When I first got it and experienced the problems, I checked the fan. It wasn't the stock fan, was a unit from Arctic Cooling. The fan was spinning, but it said that air should be blown out the exhaust, and I felt none. Upon closer inspection it turned out that the fan was defective. It was constantly speeding up/slowing down, and it was supposed to be a single speed fan...not good. But by the time I figured that out, the card had been fried. I got a new unit from Arctic Cooling, but the card no longer works.
Might want to check the fan and make sure it's spinning. Your power supply should be sufficient since I believe the QS's had 344 watt PSU's.
One thing I forgot to mention was that underclocking it usually helped. I had to underclock it a good amount, though. I believe it was around 20%.
Hope this helps.
Matt

MOVED: radeon 9800 pro too hot

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radeon 9800 pro too hot

If you have artifacts it will be to hot, otherwise it's OK.
7 casefans is overkill btw. I have 1 80mil fan that keeps my case below 35C eventhough my computer is stressed all the time.
IF you want to make it really cool, get this cooler: http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=41
It blows the hot ait out of the case in stead of circulating it a bit below the vid.card.

MEGA180 - Samsung Drive & Radeon 9800 Pro

Hi all, new here and i'm just so glad at the moment that i've found the place. Really impressed with the MEGA180, I aren't using all it's functionality, pretty much just as a PC and every now and then as a HIFI, my story so far...
I bought a Samsung DVD-RW which was incompatible with the system, i've posted in the optical drive compatibility list thread to warn others and have now gone for a NEC drive instead, seems to be fine so far, fingers crossed.
I was initially perplexed as to why people are having trouble with temps as mine was running seriously cool, however things have now changed, I have gambled a little and bought myself a Radeon 9800 Pro (MSI just to help a bit), I wasn't expecting it to work to be honest as it recommends a 300 watt power supply but all is fine, no crashes and the games are now running at anything between 1024-768 and 1280-1024 with all eye candy turned on and look great :-)
but, the temp has understandably gone through the roof, I have seen the thread for lowering temps and it's my project for the coming weekend, anything I learn or can pass on I will but at the moment you guys look like you have virtually everything covered,
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J.

Hi-
You can use the 9800 Pro in the MDD if you tape pins #3 and #11.
As for using the Zalman (or other cooler), the memory problem can be solved by using 1GB DIMMs, which would allow for up to two open slots.
Clearance of the optical drive is another issue.
If is just the EFI shield that is in the way, removing it can give a few more mm's of space.
Other drive brands are also shorter, so changing the optical drive out may be an option.
Otherwise, changing the cooler for a lower profile cooler is about all that you can do. At a minimum, reinstalling an OEM fan will give all the clearance that you need.
This Vantec is slightly smaller than the Zalman, and may be a better option:
http://www.vantecusa.com/gl/product/view_detail/97
This Vantec is very small, but better than the OEM cooler:
http://www.vantecusa.com/gl/product/view_detail/95

MDD upgrade conflict with ATI Radeon 9800

does anyone out there have my specs; Sonnettech MDX Dual 1.6gh processor with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro VGA card? After installing the processor, i now get weird lines all over the screen at bootup and then i get a bunch of green speckles all over my desktop after the computer boots. i can work on my computer, but the screen images, speckles and other artifacts are annoying. i have dropped the hz to 66 and the screen resolution to 800x600 because higher resolutions would cause the computer to freeze. does anyone have any catalyst settings or ATI display panel suggestions ? i wish i could attach the pictures i took of the display.
Dual Power Mac G4 867 & Macbook Pro 2gig Mac OS X (10.4.9) FCP Studio 5.1.2

Well, i tried your idea, bought the iceberq5, installed it with ease and things just got worse. 1st, my MDD Dual 867 mac's AGP slot is right next to my fourth RAM slot. So with the Iceberq5 installed, i had to lose 512mb of RAM. it just wont fit. the new cooler cover the RAM slot. so instead of 2gigs of RAM, i'm down to 1.5. 2nd, with the icebeq5 on the ATI card, the door will not close. the iceberq runs into the case holding my DVD drives. After booting the computer up with the case open, the screen still loaded with the screen defects. I'm thinking I have a bad card, yet it worked when the Sonnettech dual processor upgrade was not installed. these weird color lines only occur with the sonnettech md/1.6 dual upgrade and the ATI 9800 Pro installed. I then used TechTool pro to scan and check my AGP card VRAM and it gave me an error. So here is my question, is there another powerful AGP card out there for my mac dual 867 that has a powerful fan on it that is also small enough to allow my case to close and for me to have all my RAM installed ? Thanks

G4 won't start up with radeon 9800 installed

Hello, I have a Radeon 9800 pro that I bought used about a year ago and it has been working just fine. Recently however, I went to turn on my computer after a power outage (I had to reset the PMU, as well), and it gave me a boot sound, and then nothing, no video, no startup, no other noises from the hard drives. It's like it just freezes right after the post and will not continue startup. Long story short, I removed the 9800 and put the stock vid card back in (a Geforce 2MX) and my computer starts up normally. I have been unable to find any info about this online, so I was hoping someone could shed some light on it. I have a battery backup, but I was not present at the time of the outage, and I'm assuming that my UPS failed to properly shut my computer down, and I know how much my G4 hates that...
FYI, I have a g4 quicksilver 867mhz running 10.4.9, an Arctic Cooling aftermarket fan on the card, and I believe everything is up to date with the card as far as firmware, driver updates, etc. My UPS is a TrippLite with AVR. Maybe my power supply is going out? I can't imagine that the vid card got fried. I don't see how. I'm stumped...
Any insight is greatly appreciated!

Thanks for the reply. I'm a little peeved because I think this happened after a power outage, and my battery backup didn't do its job.

Radeon 9800 Pro--Broken?

I just bought a used dual 1.42mHz G4 tower and put an AGP 128 MB Radeon 9800 Pro in it; it doesn't work. I can't reset the PRAM with that card in there, and so the machine just sits there. Is it possible I need a driver that didn't come with the Leopard install?
I ask because this card worked Ok in my dual 800mHz G4 tower, but that machine died. I had removed the heatsink from the 9800 when I installed an Iceberq cooling fan last summer. Although the card did work for a while, after that, I might have partly damaged it. The AGP slot in this 1.42 machine is on the opposite end of the PCI row, so it's not possible to use the Iceberq. After removing it from the 9800, I had to find a heat sink to put on the card, I wound up using four small copper heatsinks, but between the crazy glue, and all the handling, I figure I won't know for sure if the card is the problem until I ask about this here. The 1.42mHz machine is a bit different than the earlier G4 towers, so it's worth a shot..
Anyone?
Thanks, Greg Reyna

Someone in an electronics shop suggested mixing thermal compound with crazy glue, which is what I did. Nothing else was working, and anyway I felt I was screwed. (self-screwed, that is). You see, I took the fan/heatsink off the 9800 when I got the Iceberq. That was fine for the computer it was in, but as I wrote above, the arrangement of AGP and PCI slots arereversedin this computer. You know, if, when the 9800 is installed, the chip(s) are on the right side of the card, and there are no PCI slots on that side of the AGP slot, there's no way to use the Iceberq. The way this box is designed, the heatsink on the AGP graphics card hangs over the RAM slots. And in addition to that, when the door is closed on this computer, whatever card is in the AGP slot has to slide neatly over the top of the CD/SuperDrive housing. If the heatsink, or fan, or whathaveyou on that card is more than 15 mm high or so, it doesn't fit--the case won't close. So in other words, once I "customized" the 9800 for one computer, it was pretty much useless in the other computer. I'm not sure the 9800 with its original heatsink/fan would have fit the door closing. So I rigged the 9800 with these four small copper heatsinks just to see if it would work--it didn't. If it had maybe I could have installed an arctic mole to blow on it and keep it cool, I don't know, it never came to that. Meanwhile, I'm back with the 64MB graphics card that came with this used machine, and it's running well.

Radeon 9800 pro too hot

I am running a radeon 9800 pro on my msi board and even tho i am not running games, it gets too hot to the touch. I have 7 case fans, power supply fans, cpu fan and video card fan. I am running latest catalyst drivers and read that they can make the card run hot, has anyone confirmed this? how do I check the temp of my video card?

If you have artifacts it will be to hot, otherwise it's OK.
7 casefans is overkill btw. I have 1 80mil fan that keeps my case below 35C eventhough my computer is stressed all the time.
IF you want to make it really cool, get this cooler: http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=41
It blows the hot ait out of the case in stead of circulating it a bit below the vid.card.

Radeon 9800/256 MB for Sawtooth?

Hello,
Can anyone verify if [this|http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270269208676&trksid=p3907.m32&trkparms=tab%3DWatching] Radeon 9800/256 MB Pro is compatible with the Sawtooth? I should say with my Sawtooth for which I do have a 550 watt PSU; I just haven't installed it yet.
The specs for the 9800/256 MB Pro state it is not compatible with 2X AGP; but it has two gaps in the connectors which indicates it would work on the 2X AGP Sawtooth running 10.4.11.
If the 9800/256 MB Pro is compatible, is it really worth getting over the 9800/128 MB Pro (which is compatible with the Sawtooth)? Mostly I use my G4 to do fine art graphics work in Photoshop and Aperture......Although I do appreciate really fine graphics on my display no matter what I am doing.
Also, will the 9800/256 Pro cool efficiently enough with all three PCI slots being utilized?
Thanks!

Hi-
The fan install isn't difficult. The hardest part is getting the OEM fan off. It uses two push pin type fasteners, that are spring loaded.
If you're game to replace a PSU, then you can do this!
Seems I have managed to break at least one pin on the ATI fans on most attempts at removal....
But, then again, no one ever told me how to do it.........
What the ATI heatsink fasteners are, is a hollow retaining stud, with a spring around the stud to maintain downward pressure on the graphics processor chip (maintain good contact). Then, a pin is inserted into the stud to expand the bottom of the stud in the graphics card board.
Carefully push the pin out of the stud from the back side of the board. A blunted off tooth pick can be used for this (blunted to protect you, not the card ) Then using small needle nose pliers, or hemostats, squeeze the protruding portion of the stud so that it slips back through the hole in the graphics board, releasing the heatsink/fan from the board.
If you don't care to salvage the pins, use a small pair of side cutters and clip the stud off from the back side of the card. Definitely not tedious, this method.......
Careful, though, as the spring will launch the other end of the pin to the nether regions of your room!
Once the assembly is off, using a soft cloth, dampened with isoprophyl alcohol (only if necessary) clean the surface of the graphics processor chip off, leaving no residue.
Place a small amount (about 5mm diameter x 1-2mm thick) of the thermal compound on the processor chip, and then test fit the new heatsink (simply place and remove). From the footprint, you will be able to see if you need more compound, or if there is too much. What you want, is an evenly dispersed, thin coat over the entire mating surface.
MX-2 is thick and sticky, so better to have to add than to have to remove.....
Don't worry too much about excess, as MX-2 is non-conductive, and won't cause any shorts like other compounds can. You can remove some excess from the perimeter of the chip and heatsink with a soft clean cloth.
From there, follow the instructions included with the VGA cooler, and everything should be fine.
The Vantec should use screws, so it is easier to assemble/disassemble.
Pay attention to maker instructions on fastening the heatsink. Proper fastening, neither too tight nor too loose is important.
That should about do ya'. Remember, if you get a flashed card, since you are using it in a Sawtooth, the typically taped #3 and #11 pins (on the backside) don't need to be taped, or otherwise altered.

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