RAW import and filters in Aperture - red faces

I've imported RAW pictures taken in bad light conditions (8 000 ISO or more) in Aperture. As a consequence I have some and the faces of people in pictures appear "red", due to the visible noise.
When I upload those picts directly to my iPad 2, it seems the picts are filtered and the faces are "normal", the red colour is reduced. Picts are nice.
When I upload those picts in Aperture, after having applied some filters for optimizing the RAW pict, I can not remove completly the red colour. I can not get the same result as I have on the iPad : picts seem to be better on my iPad (compared with what I can get on the Mac with Aperture).
I'm not an Aperture expert, but does anybody know what kind of filter (equivalent to Aperture presets) are applied on RAW picts when importing on the iPad ?

"How do you import to your iPad? Reading the card using the camera connection kit? Or uploading from your Mac?"
==> I use the Apple camera connection kit, so using a direct connection between the digital camera and the iPad. The resolution on the iPad is very good.
I also have noticed, when I plug the iPad 2 to the mac (iOS 6), Aperture starts and proposes to import picts from the iPad whithin my APerture Library. I can see the picts I have previously imported into the iPad using a direct connection between the digital camera and the iPad.
Those picts are shown in RAW format (.CR2). So I guess RAW picts are imported in RAW format in the iPad (during the direct import). And the iPad includes a native RAW viewer in the mobile app "Photos". This app may include some filter or noise reduction capabilities.
"So, have you been importing raw+jpeg pairs or single raw files?"
==> I import single RAW files. On the camera, a Canon 5D mk iii, I have configured mRAW only, disabling the jpeg pair.
What do you mean by "embedded jpeg in the raw" ?

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I've just found a fix, or at least a temporary one until Apple sort Aperture out.
When loading the RAW or NEF file in Aperture, wait for it to over expose the file. Then try this,
1 - click the Adjustments tab on the left of the screen
2 - click Effects
3 - hover over Quick Fixes
4 - select either Exposure -1 or Exposure -2
-1 or -2 tends to fix my image depending on how much Aperture blew it out by when I loaded the image. Loading the image in full screen after doing that shows a very minor difference, only just detectable to the eye after a lot of pixel peeping, compared to the file loaded in Preview or iPhoto.
So it seems for whatever reason Aperture is applying too much exposure by default to RAW / NEF files. Not sure how to change this or stop it but it could be a setting hidden somewhere. Obviously you could set up a routine to automatically apply either -1 or -2 to all RAW / NEF files on import if you wished or you can do it manually.
This should help until Apple fix Aperture.
I've also raised an issue with Apple about this to see if they can advise a proper fix.

RAW importing and editing

Okay, I know this has been covered countless times under different guises but I have a few specific questions/gripes.
I've been happily shooting away these past few weeks (Canon Rebel XTi, before anyone asks), and shooting RAW most of the time. Now I have continually imported and deleted (from camera) my photos into iPhoto, satisfied that it's importing RAW files correctly. Satisfied as when comparing the images to the automatically saved JPEG version the extra latitude is visibly obvious. Trying to open these files (.CR2) in Photoshop CS2 though, it says the file is unsupported (either from hitting edit within iPhoto, or browsing in Finder). Although importing the .CR2 files into Aperture 2 and Photoshop CS3 (Trial versions) they open as RAW. In addition though there are images that match the look of the RAW although they are JPGs.
What does iPhoto do to photos?

Andrew:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. iPhoto doesn't do anything to files when it imports. It just copies them. It appears the CS2 doesn't support that Canon's RAW file where CS3 does. Check at the Adobe site and see if there's a plugin for CS2 that will make it work.
FWIW:
Using Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements) as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements 6 the Saving File preferences should be configured: "On First Save: Save Over Current File". Also I suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always.
If you want to use both iPhoto's editing mode and PS without having to go back and forth to the Preference pane, once you've selected PS as your editor of choice, reset the Preferences back to "Open in main window". That will let you either edit in iPhoto (double click on the thumbnail) or in PS (Control-click on the thumbnail and seledt "Edit in external editor" in the Contextual menu). This way you get the best of both worlds
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
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Rotation of images imported and exported from Aperture

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Recently whilst on Holiday I used my iPad as a storage for the camera via the camera kit. When I got home I synced the iPad with the Mac to get the images into iPhoto, and then imported them into Aperture.
This is where the first problem occurred. A large number of the portrait orientated images came into Aperture upside down ????
So I selected and rotated all the incorrect ones in Aperture then carried on to sort and process them. Mostly removing the "raw, iphoto image" keywords and some cropping and tinting etc.
Then I went to iTunes and did a sync of the photos in Aperture back to the iPad (I had wiped them from the iPad after the import into iPhoto).
Again a large number of the images rotated themselves so that now they are upside down on the iPad.
It would appear that either the import or sync to iPad, or both has got something wrong.
Does anyone have any idea what to do? The images look correct now in Aperture, but are incorrect on the iPad.
Grrr!

Not easy to explain as i don't understand fully the details of what goes on myself, but the basics. Most cameras sense rotation, but only add a marker to tell the computer how to display the image, Some programmes see this, some don't, so you then rotate in iPhoto, then move to Aperture, and the programme now may see multiple instructions on how to display the image. Yours and the cameras. I have had this kind of problem in the past and it is very frustrating.
The Masters only have one set of information or none on older cameras. If you use the masters to put in to Aperture then do your edits you should not have this problem. If you correct this by exporting and re importing the jpeg you will loose image quality.
Allan

New User: LR imports all Canon RAW's and jpgs Red / Pink

I'm not a guru or professional - I shoot alot with an XTi / 400 with various lenses - been successful using Canon's software. Downloaded LR and imported Canon RAW's and they're all red / pink - entirely red / pink. I have spent 3 to 4 hours reading forums / searching for answers and cannot find anyone else with this problem. I then tried importing jpgs from a Sony - they're also red / pink - very frustrating. Leads me to believe perhaps I have a driver / card issue on my computer.
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Raw Import Bug

I'm having some real trouble with Aperture 3's RAW conversion. I spent hours setting up my studio for bright, happy, headshots. On my camera, the photos look perfect, exactly as I want, and the brightness makes her skin smooth and radiant. When I import the RAW into Aperture 3, they look like the photo on the right - dark, and oversaturated. The skin looks terrible, the hair is dark, it's just all wrong. I know Aperture admits that for my Nikon D700 camera it converts my raws 0.1 darker than it should (which to me is unacceptable). But why do I spend so much time perfecting my lighting if Aperture ruins the files on import?
My question is - is there any way to reset my RAW import options to be Aperture 2?
I should note that in Aperture 3, when I try to edit a photo to make it look more like I want it to look, it comes out terribly contrasty, I loose highlight detail quickly. It's also overstaturated so when I adjust the exposure, her skin looks a bit too yellow. This is a lot of adjustment to apply to the 800 images I took of her, especially considering I photographed her exactly how I wanted.

Your camera is showing you, on a very small display, a small JPG conversion done by its internal computer. It is never going to look like the default converted-from-RAW-on-a-computer-and-displayed-on-a-good-monitor version of the photo.
The better comparison would be between default RAW conversions done by Aperture, by Nikon's own software, and by an Adobe product. In all cases, however, you should see more detail, including more subtle gradations across similar areas, and a broader (or more filled-in) luminance range.
Personally, I'd much much much prefer to have the image on the right to work with (of the two you supplied). I don't know why you aren't able to get it to look like the in-camera JPG. If you do, however, applying the same settings to 800 Images is very easy in Aperture (create and apply a Preset, or Lift & Stamp). Processing studio shots should be quick work because the conditions of the exposure are controlled and identical for multiple exposures.
As I see it, you have a few practical choices:
Use the JPGs created in-camera. If they work, this eliminates several steps in your workflow.
Use Nikon's (or other) RAW converter to create TIFF files, and import those into Aperture
Learn how to set up the studio lighting so you get the RAW (and converted-from-RAW) results you want. Your goal isn't to light the subject so it looks right on the back of the camera -- your goal is to light the subject so your developed pictures look the way you want them to.
Figure out an Adjustment Preset in Aperture that gives you what you want. Aperture has robust tools for changing the look of your photos. If you post a RAW, some of the forum members here (myself included) are likely to essay adjusting it to your specifications (which, of course, you should provide).
Change the settings for RAW conversion in Aperture. This, imho, is least likely to help you in the long run.
I'm sure there are other ways 'round this RAW boulder -- those are just the ones that occur to me.
Good Luck.
Message was edited by: Kirby Krieger -- first graph clarified.

Imported RAW images badly corrupted, looks like red paint splashed all over the sky. Photoshop and Iphoto have no problem with the images from my D800E. Aperture worked fine for me in June with the same camera. The Nikon software shows no problem.

I am having a problem importing my images into Aperture 3 from my Nikon D800E. The images appear as if red paint was splashed across the sky. The Nikon software used to transfer from the camera does not show this problem and Photoshop 6 is fine with the images exported as jpg from the Nikon software. Aperature does not even like the jpg images usable by Photoshop. I am suspecting that Aperture is not correctly using the camera raw file. Also, the histograms are radically different between the corrupted images and the Photoshop (good) versions. Aperture worked just fine for me in June with the same camera. All drivers and software are current as of this posting. Anyone else out there seen this before??

Are you sure you do not have Highlight Hot & Cold Areas turned on? (View->Highlight Hot & Cold Areas)?
The bug in Digital Camera raw only affected Raw images. In your first post you wrote:
Aperature does not even like the jpg images usable by Photoshop
If the JPG's have the same problem then it isn't this bug.
regards

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Aperture 3: Deleting raw files and making the jpeg my new master-

Aperture 3 has made some great strides in making the following possible ( I posted this originally in 2007):
What I'd like to do is shoot everything in raw + jpg, and then keep the raw files only for the important shots.
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I think part of the problem is that there's a purist mentality about RAW files. One should always shoot them - and then keep them forever- after all- they're your negatives!
But what about event photography? Or weddings, as you pointed out? It makes no sense to burden your workflow & backup system with 4GB of RAW files of people grinning into the camera. Once the adjustments have been made, the RAW files are just a ball & chain on your data management. And let's not forget, once you really know what you're doing, your jpegs should be good most of the time anyway.
I want RAW files as a safety net for errors in exposure and white balance. Once I know I have good photos, I don't need the safety net anymore- at least not at the price of all that hard disk space and transfer time for online backup. Of course, for my fine art stuff and important documentary work, I'll always keep the RAWs permanently. But not for routine parties/events.
You put your finger on the problem with re-importing jpegs as a solution. You lose your metadata- rankings/album memberships, etc. This is no solution!
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1) Let me batch-delete RAW files when the jpegs are ok.
2) Let me do adjustments on my RAW file, render out a high-quality jpeg, and make the jpeg my new master.
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You assume that I speak and write Dutch.
My apologies to all of you who don't/cannot read/understand Dutch. The following is in Dutch and not Double Dutch.
It explains in some detail how to setup a workflow in Automator for separating RAW and JPEG files and importing the result in Aperture.
If someone wants the explanation in English: post a message.
Ga naar
http://www.completedigitalphotography.com/?p=408#more-408
en haal de Separate Jpeg's action.
NB. Ik ken alleen de Engelse namen van de mappen.
Plaats de Separate Jpeg's action hier
~/Library/Automator
Automator
Automator opstarten
Kies Bestand, Nieuw
Paneel Library: selecteer Finder
Paneel Action : selecteer een sleep "Separate Jpeg's" naar Workflow paneel
selecteer en sleep "Get Folder Contents" naar Workflow paneel (einde)
Paneel Library : selecteer Automator (PAS OP: Automator wordt geladen; weg ermee)
Paneel Automator: selecteer en sleep Import Photos naar Workflow paneel (einde)
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~/Library/Workflow/Applications/Workflows/
Gebruik
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Ctrl-Click of rechts klikken
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