Re Create Joins in Complex folder?

Hi all, I have a question regarding complex folders. I am reading the Oracle Discoverer Handbook, and it says that when a complex folder is created and Items are dragged in, the Joins are not copied, and must be created. (I noticed that the joins are missing when I drag all items from other folders in.) How do you do this? I havn't been recreating Joins all along and it seems to be working ok... can someone elaborate? I think the book only has one sentence on it.

Hi,
If you have 2 base folders A and B, and you create a join between A and B then both folders will contain the A<->B join.
If you then create a complex folder X and drag items from A into X. X will not contain the A<->B join. If you want to join X to B in your report then you will have to create a X<-> B join.
However, if you drag items from both A and B into X, then folder X will implicitly contain the A<->B join. It won't show up in the folder items, but will be shown in the folder dependencies.
Hope that helps,
Rod West

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We have two problems when we include items into complex folders.
1.
Say, I have a folder FOLDER1 with joins to FOLDER2 and FOLDER3.
Create a complex folder with items from folder2 and folder3.
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There are some folders included in the complex folder as components but we are not using any items from them anymore. How do I get rid of those components ? They are causing problems because of the joins between them and the real folders I want to use in the complex folder.

Hi,
If you have 2 base folders A and B, and you create a join between A and B then both folders will contain the A<->B join.
If you then create a complex folder X and drag items from A into X. X will not contain the A<->B join. If you want to join X to B in your report then you will have to create a X<-> B join.
However, if you drag items from both A and B into X, then folder X will implicitly contain the A<->B join. It won't show up in the folder items, but will be shown in the folder dependencies.
Hope that helps,
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Is it possible to do a join when building a custom folder? According to the training books the SQL supported in custom folders is limited. It seems like every corner I turn in discoverer I run into a limitation.

Im not sure I have ever replied to myself so much, I feel like I have multiple personalities now. Anyways I was testing the join theory when contructing a custom folder and got a strange error message. "Ambiguous column name", however, I can not see the error in the following statement. The query runs fine in Rapid SQL.
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I have one simple folder (test) which is like one large table in the database. I want to create 5 complex folders from this "TEST" folder and be able to create joins, drill, sorts, conditions etc., and also calculate some items to help users with what they want.
I need to know how possible it is to do this and would I run into problems in future.
Actually am I better off splitting the table in the database into five tables so that I would have five simple folders instead of One simple folder.
I need an answer please.
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Hi,
If your folder contains only 1 table then how you can create a join.If you wants this folder to split you can do what ever you want except joining from other table in a work book,
better create a view at database and join the tables in that view then you can go ahead with the business area.
(OR)
take two tables in the business area and join them together but there should be constraints in both the tables.
If your problem is not yet solved please give the detail question what actually you needs.
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I’m having problem with LOV for item that has DECODE function in
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i111383, i110922 AS i111385, i110923 AS i111387, i110924 AS
i111389, i110992 AS i111391, i110956 AS i111393, i110991 AS
i111395, i111025 AS i111397, i111027 AS i111399, i111029 AS
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Im not sure I have ever replied to myself so much, I feel like I have multiple personalities now. Anyways I was testing the join theory when contructing a custom folder and got a strange error message. "Ambiguous column name", however, I can not see the error in the following statement. The query runs fine in Rapid SQL.
select distinct cpm.ncmd_analysis.document_no, rmsdw.ncmd_document_srvfunc_signt.document_no
from rmsdw.ncmd_document_srvfunc_signt, cpm.ncmd_analysis
where (cpm.ncmd_analysis.document_no = rmsdw.ncmd_document_srvfunc_signt.document_no (+)) and
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Use of Complex Folder in Discoverer Administrator

Hi!
Can anybody help me? I starting to use the Discoverer
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Ill need this class for get grades for the students of this school and things like this.
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Hi
In complex forlder you can't create select with union by drag and drop.
Create an SQL folder with the select of the view.
Ott Karesz
http://www.trendo-kft.hu

How do I add the Address for 2 different PARTIES to the same complex folder

I have a PARTY table and an INTERESTED PARTY table and both contain an ADD_ID from the ADDRESS table.
I created a complex folder with both PARTY.ADD_ID and INT_PARTY.ADD_ID and I want to add the Address info for each each to the folder.
I am only prompted to CHOSE A JOIN when adding the first ADDRESS items, but not for the second.
How do I get both addresses into the same complex folder?

Hi Lance,
Using Discoverer Admin 9i, I had already created the Complex folder and was dragging items from the simple ADDRESS folder into it.
Because the simple Address folder is joined to so many other folders being used by my complex folder, I was prompted to chose which join I was referring to - so I selected ADDRESS->PARTY.
Then I tried dragging the same set of address items into the same complex folder again. I expected it to ask me to chose another join (ADDRESS->INTERESTED PARTY) - but it didn't. It assumes I'm still referring to the PARTY join, but I'm not.
I even tried bringing the ADDRESS table in from the database twice (like you would do in an Access query).
I joined ADDRESS->PARTY and ADDRESS1->INTERESTED PARTY, but Discoverer got hung up on that so I ditched that idea.
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How to view code of all the custom and complex folder folder

How to view code of all the custom and complex folder folder in EUL?

You do not need to run all the reports.
Also i am not sure about why do you need to see the code of every thing, i assume you will not get much from it.
If there is a certain folder you are interested in then this is the way.
Any way there is no way to get the code of the complex folders since they are logical join of other folders.
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Hi
Currently, the components of a complex folder is pointing to folders in a different business area. The business area that the complex folder is in also has those folders. I would like to know if it is possible to modify the folder properties for the complex folder so that the components point to the same business area. It is not possible to drop the folder and recreate it using the folders in the same area, because reports have already been developed

Hi
I am sorry to be the bringer of bad news but you cannot do what you ask. I have looked at the tables that comprise a complex folder. These are:
EUL5_OBJS - Folder Table - this hold a single row defining the folder name
EUL5_OBJ_DEPS - Folder dependencies - this holds one row for each sub-folder used in the complex folder
EUL5_JOIN_USGS - Folder joins - this holds data about how the sub-folders are joined together
If you look in the database and get the OBJ_ID for the complex folder you want to repoint you will see that this joins as follows:
EUL5_OBJS.OBJ_ID joins to EUL5_OBJ_DEPS.OD_OBJ_ID_FROM and
EUL5_OBJS.OBJ_ID joins to EUL5_OBJ_DEPS.OJU.OBJ_ID
To make the switch you would have to be able to change both EUL5_OBJ_DEPS.OD_OBJ_ID_FROM and EUL5_OBJ_DEPS.OJU.OBJ_ID to be the OBJ_ID of the main folder. Unfortunately, these columns are part of a unique key and you cannot update them as it would clash with the definition of the original folder.
The other thing that would stop this from working is that when Discoverer saves a worksheet it embeds the unique key for each join within the worksheet code. Even if you could switch all the pointers within the EUL the workbook would still not open. It would find the folders but then detect that the join ideintifier was not the same and you would get an error.
I have tried for several hours manipulating a test EUL that I have to see if there was a way of doing this and I have not been successful.
It looks as though you will have to edit each workbook, drop out the new folder and reattach the old folder.
Sorry about this
Michael

Reuse of complex folder across projects in OWB 10 g r2

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How do I reuse a complex folder created in one OWB project in another project without recreating ?
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BA_1 has a database folder: DF_1 (based on Table TB_1)
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Thanks a lot Rod West & njethwa,
njethwa, i don't want to create a DB view as i have lot of calculations & may increase in future. also i want to reduce interaction with DB directly for Disco work.
Rod West,
I think you are right, becoz I have req. from a group of my clients that they all are using a set of common calculation based items, and calculations are bit complex in some cases, so they wanted to avoid creation of those calculation each time they create report. The number of items may increase in future.
I don't want to add them to base folder so that other clients are not confused with new items & also i don't want to make a folder a long tail of items.
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Similarly if i use Custom folder in combination with simple how disco builds sql: Single or multiple??
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