Re-routing Edge servers from OCS 2007 R2 to LYNC 2010
We have LYNC 2010 Enterprise pool with merged topology with OCS 2007 R2 Pool, using OCS 2007 R2 Edge servers. We would like to move onto LYNC 2013 and here i have some questions on Edge servers.
1. Once I migrate all users, can i keep OCS 2007 R2 Edge servers and decommission OCS 2007 R2 pool to setup LYNC 2013 Pool? ( we have 3 Front end servers and 3 CWA servers in OCS 2007 R2 pool).
Can i use OCS 2007 R2 edge servers for LYNC 2010 and LYNC 2013 Pools for federation and remote access?
Thanks for your help.
Tek-Nerd
I've seen OCS 2007 R2 servers work for Lync 2013 internal users with some limitations. I'm not sure what would happen if you decommission the OCS front end. However, why not upgrade the edge as well?
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Hi All,
Need help - we are planning to migrate around 14000 ~ 16000 users from OCS 2007 R2 to Lync 2013 environment -
issues are - the new Lync 2013 environment will be in a new forest and sip address will not change.
Considering the same - I understand we don't have any option other than going for a cut-over.
please help me to understand how can I move the user's contact and other configurations from OCS 2007 R2 to Lync 2013.
Thanking you
MazHi,
It is indeed a clean cut over. BIG BANG.
You export all users from your OCS environment. All scheduled live meetings will need to be rescheduled because Lync Server 2013 doesn't support Live Meetings anymore.
I would export, convert and import all users like this:
Dbimpexp.exe /hrxmlfile:"C:\Logs\Lync2010data.xml" /sqlserver:Sql.contoso.com\rtc
Convert-CsUserData -InputFile "C:\Logs\Lync2010data.xml" -OutputFile "C:\Logs\Lync2013Data.Zip" -TargetVersion Current
Import-CsUserData -PoolFqdn "atl-cs-001.litwareinc.com" -FileName "C:\Logs\Lync2013Data.Zip"
Don't use Import-CsUserData twice, but use Update-CsUserData the second time if needed.
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Conditional Routing of emails from Exchange 2007
I have a requirement to be able to control the routing of emails from Exchange 2007 based upon the sender email address.
For example, an exchange 2007 email system has 2 accepted domains, domain1.com and domain2.com. The system uses 2 external SMTP gateways used for sending all outbound email (gateway1 & gateway2)
If [email protected] emails [email protected] I want it to travel via gateway1
If [email protected] emails [email protected] I want it to travel via gateway2.
All mailboxes are on a single mailbox server cluster, and there are 2 load balanced Hub Transport servers.
I have looked into various ways of dealing with this and have had no success. I looked at transport rules, but I dont believe it is possible to specify the next hop. I've also looked into setting permissions on the send connectors, but it is not clear exactly what permissions I need to set, or whether it will work.
The only solution I can see is to forward all outbound emails to a separate SMTP gateway (such as postfix) which supports this kind of functionality. However I would rather solve the problem using Exchange.
Any suggestions?This is not possible natively in Exchange but you can create your own transport agent and hook it with Exchange to configure conditional routing. You may try posting a query in Development forum to get help from developers on writing a transport agent.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvrdevelopment/threads
Here is a great step-by-step example in that direction, not exactly what you are looking for but quite similar to that...
How to control routing from your own routing agent
http://blogs.technet.com/appssrv/archive/2009/08/26/how-to-control-routing-from-your-own-routing-agent.aspx
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Upgrade from OCS 2007 to OCS 2007 R2 and Lync 2013
Hy friends!
Help me, please!
Scenario: Migration from OCS 2007 RTM to OCS 2007 R2
Target: Keep user contact list (I'm talking about only OCS contact list from internal organization users, I'm not refer about external addresses)
Question: I want to know if when I move a user from OCS 2007 RTM to OCS 2007 R2 the user contact list is also migrated?
If Yes, can you share the Microsoft documentation that describe it?
So, after I migrate the users to OCS 2007 R2, finally I can do a supported migration to Lync Server 2013.
Thanks in advance.If you do a side-by-side migration the contact lists (and other user data) should remain intact. If you tear down OCS2007 and then install OCS2007R2, then you will need to use dbimpexp.exe to export the contact list from OCS2007.
Here is an overview: http://blogs.technet.com/b/ucedsg/archive/2009/02/07/how-do-i-get-from-ocs-rtm-r1-to-ocs-r2.aspx
Also take a look at the deployment guide: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=19984 specifically
the section called "Updating from Office Communications Server 2007" which lists some potential issues.
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Migration from Exchange 2007 SP3 to Exchange 2010
Hello,
We are planning a single server migration from Exchange 2007 SP3 to Exchange 2010. I'll be building the 2010 server on a 2008 R2 box. My question is, can I make the jump directly to Exchange 2010 SP3, or do I need to install exchange 2010 SP1 first
- migrate from 2007 SP3, and then install SP3 for exchange 2010 later?
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That's not correct at all, you can migrate exchange server 2007 SP3 and RollUp Update 10 minimum to Exchange Server 2013 with minimum CU1.
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Migration to Lync 2013 from OCS 2007 R2 - queries
We are currently running OCS 2007 R2 across Citrix Presentation server 4.5 and Desktops using just IM functionality. We are looking to upgrade to LYNC 2013 for IM and to start using Group Chat. We currently have a Physical OCS front end server,
a physical server running SQL for the DB's and then a physical server running the Archive OCS component.
How easy is this to do? Would we keep the same Pool name?
Can the OCS client be used to connect to Lync 2013?
Can we move the physical servers into VM's? Do we need 3 or can we have all on one VM now?
The SQL DB part can this now be hosted on a stand alone SQL cluster in its own instance if required?
LYNC IM and Group Chat client - is it supported to run on Citrix Presentation server 6.5?
Is a Schema Update required?
Are there any good walk throughs on the internet just covering IM and Group chat migrations etc as from what I have been seeing there are some out there but have voice in them as well.
Thanks.In addition, the presence and IM features in Office Communicator 2007 R2 are compatible with Lync Server 2013, but conferencing features are not. During migration from Office Communications Server 2007 R2, Office
Communicator 2007 R2 is suitable for presence and IM interoperability, but users should use Lync Web App 2013 to join Lync Server 2013 meetings.
Q: Is it supported to run on Citrix Presentation server 6.5?
A: check the official document at http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX138408
Is a Schema Update required?
Yes, schema update is required. See
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj205265.aspx
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Migrating to Lync 2013 from OCS 2007 R2 ... to unprep or not to unprep
I've been reading on TechNet that I should unprep the domain and forest after decommissioning / uninstalling all OCS 2007 R2 server roles:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd572243(v=office.13).aspx
...but then, in other places (such as blogs and TechNet forums), I've read not to unprep the domain and forest if Lync 2013 is already deployed:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/lync/en-US/6b8cd7ca-fe67-418b-ae66-5be682d8d2d6/unprep-ocs-2007-r2-domain-and-forest-with-existing-lync-installation?forum=ocsplanningdeployment
http://www.ucprofessional.com/2011/04/decommisioning-ocs-2007-r2-after.html
Would someone please clarify what to do here and why?While I haven't personally done a deep dive on everything it does, my understanding is that's it's more than just a simple mod to the system container. For example, from the OCS decommission article you referenced: "Running
Unprep for a domain removes the access control entries (ACEs) granted to Active Directory universal groups". Lync still uses the same RTCUniversal groups, so touching it at all with Lync in production as well could be bad.
Forest prep actually creates these groups:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd441353(v=office.13).aspx That said, I haven't seen an unprep referenced in the migration from OCS to Lync docs, and the doc you referenced is specifically for completely removing OCS from your environment
where these groups wouldn't be needed. So, while I can't tell you exactly what all it does, I really wouldn't mess with it unless you have a strong reason to or are willing to rebuild Lync to get a few old objects out of the system container.
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Move Users from OCS 2007 R2 to New Lync 2013
I am trying to move users from OCS to Lync 2013 from within the Lync 2013 Control Panel and am getting an error that states "Cannot find Registrar pool. Verify that "FQDN of old pool" is a valid registrar pool.
Give this Lync powershell command a go:
Move-CsLegacyUser <user> -Target <Lync2013 Pool Name>
Move-CsLegacyUser -Identity "Pilar Ackerman" -Target "atl-cs-001.litwareinc.com"
Have you reviewed the OCS to 2013 migration documents?
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj205375.aspx
Did you add the OCS pool to the 2013 topology?
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Why can't I copy contacts' email address from their name card in lync 2010
so here is the issue I have, when I need to copy someone's email addresses or their phone numbers, normally I will find them on lync, move the cursor on them, and their name card will show up, then I move cursor to their email address or their phone numbers,
right click it, there will be an option to "copy", right? but sometimes, right clicking doesn't work. that copy option just won't pop up, this issue happens randomly, I need to restart lync, then it will work again. Also, there is one thing
that's weird, after I restart lync, whatever I have copied in the clipboard will disappear, like if I press ctrl+c to copy something from word, then this issue happened, I restart lync, I can copy information in lync name card again, but all that
content I copied does not exist in clipboard anymore, I press ctrl+v, there is nothing coming out.
this is not a big problem, but it's really annoying, does anyone know why this issue happen and how to permanently? I tried to reinstall, does not work.
this issues happens with both lync 2010 32 bit on 32 bit win7 and lync 2010 64 bit on win7 64 bit.Hi,
Please try to delete Lync user profile and information in registry.
The path of Lync user profile: <user profile>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Communicator\
The path of Lync information in registry: HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Communicator\[email protected]
Please also make sure Lync client update to the latest version.
Best Regards,
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Routing email from exchange 2007 to 2010 .
Although this is an
hypothetical question but still would be a great help if anyone could answer this : " How email routing takes place from exchange 2007 user
to exchange 2010 user. I have exchange 2007 and 2010 ,provided i am using single forest with same domain name in both 2007 & 2010 environment "
Aditya MedirattaHi,
Firstly,I'd like to explain, message routing from Exchange 2007 to Exchange 2010 is message delivery between responsed Hub Transport servers：
When a Hub Transport server queries Active Directory to determine the Mailbox server hosting the destination mailbox, it also retrieves the version of the Mailbox server. If the Mailbox server is an Exchange 2007 server that's in the same site as the Hub Transport
server, the Hub Transport server will relay the message to an Exchange 2007 Hub Transport server in the same Active Directory site.
For more information about the emails routing process, you can refer to the following articles:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb232193(v=exchg.141).aspx#Old
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996349(v=exchg.141).aspx
If you have any question, please feel free to let me know.
Thanks,
Angela Shi
TechNet Community Support -
OCS 2007 to Lync 2013 migration approach & steps
Hi,
I am looking for migration approach from OCS 2007 (not OCS 2007 r2) to Lync 2013 for 4000 users. as per the MS technet its not supported. has anyone tried and tested if yes please provide the steps and risk involved. thanksHi Nmits,
Since it is not supported to migration from OCS 2007 to Lync server 2013 directly, you have two ways to complete the migration process:
Migration from OCS 2007 to OCS 2007 R2 first, then migration from OCS 2007 R2 to Lync server 2013.
Migration from OCS 2007 to Lync server 2010 first, then migration from Lync server 2010 to Lync server 2013.
Migration from OCS 2007 to OCS 2007 R2:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd572505(v=office.13).aspx
Migration from OCS 2007 to Lync server 2010:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-in/download/details.aspx?id=7327
http://blogs.technet.com/b/nexthop/archive/2011/05/23/migrating-from-office-communications-server-2007-to-lync-server-2010.aspx
Best Regards,
Eason Huang
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How to connect Lync 2013 client with OCS 2007 R2 Edge server
Hi,
We have OCS 2007 R2 Edge server for external & OCS 2007 R2 FE Server for internal access in our environment.
We able to access internally Lync2013 clients with OCS 2007R2 server, however from external we cannot access Lync2013 client with OCS2007 R2 server.
Is there any patch or registry key trick to access OCS from lync2013 client externally? We cannot immediately migrate to Lync2013 server from OCS.
Any help
MDHi,
I suggest you still use OCS 2007 R2 client to login OCS 2007 R2 Server untill finishing migration to Lync Server 2013, as using Lync client with OCS 2007 R2 Server will offer a pretty limited experience.
Here is a great blog about Lync 2010 Client unsupported with OCS, it is for Lync 2010 client but similar for Lync 2013 client:
http://blog.schertz.name/2010/09/lync-client-unsupported-ocs/
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Hello world.
Doing a side by side migration from OCS 2007 to OCS 2007 R2 (due to our goofy SA agreement cannot upgrade to 2010 or Lync yet) and I am following the step by step guide here:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd572505(office.13).aspx
My question is this...can I have two disparate SRV records referencing TLS...one pointed to legacy and then a new one pointed to the new server? What will happen with my clients?
This is an internal only deployment...no edge servers...no director...etc.
I have the domain prepped and when I launch setupse.exe I get all the way to the end and it rolls back because it cannot create the pool as it does not exist and there is no SRV TLS record to reference the pool.
We use OCS 2007 extensively throughout the org day and evening so I need to be able to get the new SRV records and pool inline without impacting production.
Can anyone shed some light on how I move forward? Been over the documentation and Google/Bing quite a bit and have yet to find a sufficient answer.
Thank you in advance MS community!Hi crashIO,
No, the DNS SRV record can point only to a single pool, and in a mixed environment the supported configuration is to use Office Communications Server 2007, Director, with both Office Communications
Server 2007 and Office Communications Server 2007 R2 pools. This means that during migration, you should configure DNS records to point to the Office Communications Server 2007 Director or FE.
Before installing the OCS 2007 R2 pool, did you move your OCS Global Settings from the System Container to the Configuration Container in Active Directory.
“With Office Communications Server 2007 R2, the default container for Office Communications Server global settings is the Configuration container. In previous versions, the default container
was System container of the root domain.”
If you did not perform this step, please follow the article below to do this.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd572392%28v=office.13%29.aspx
In addition, in order to co-existence with OCS 2007 R2, please ensure your OCS 2007 Servers are up-to-date.
Best regards,
Eric
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Lync server 2010 and 2013 coexistence replacing edge servers
Hi all,
here is Our current deployment:
Lync server 2010:
1 edge
1 FE
3 branch sites
1 Monitoring server
Lync server 2013:
3 FrontEnd
2 Edge
2 Mediation
3 Backend
Simple urls are still point to Legacy (2010) servers.
External settings of Edge 2013 servers have been define With different name (Access,WEB and AV) and DNS (internally and externally) is pointing to New 2013 servers (via KEMP and TMG).
ATM 2013 topology is using edge2010 server.
Seems like we have two options for replacing Edge servers,one is Rip and replace and the other one is side by side transition.
We would like to do rip and replace so we can keep old simple urls (so that we dont have to send notice to external partners about Our New Access edge info) and using 2013 edge servers for federation and keep users on 2010 servers,then move them in
a controlled way.
What is the best way to do this?
Thanks!
Please mark as helpful if you find my contribution useful or as an answer if it does answer your question. That will encourage me - and others - to take time out to help you. Thank you! Off2workHi,
From your description above, the purpose is no need to update the New Access Edge info to the external partners. So for those external partners who set federation type of “Allowed Partner Server”, you need to keep the SIP domain name and the Edge Server
FQDN the same as before.
So base on my knowledge, you need to plan a down time, and firstly cancel the federation route for the Lync Edge 2010 Server. Delete the Lync Edge 2010 Server and publish the topology. Then deploy the Lync 2013 Edge Server with the same FQDN with Lync Edge
2010 Server. Then enable federation for it and point to the Lync Server 2013 FE Pool.
Best Regards,
Eason Huang
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Hello
slowing moving a new company into our environment. first we are giving them our primary smtp addresses to use in their domain. with their own exchange servers for now. MY smtp is abc.com. once they change their primary smtp their OCS
2007 R2 client prompts for credentials.
I thought there was an regkey to disable autodisover just for OCS?
thanksHi,
For Lync 2010, you can try the following steps to test in an affected machine using Lync Client 2010:
From a command prompt execute with admin rights:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Communicator /v TrustModelData /t REG_EXPAND_SZ /d "a.com,b.com", empty the value.
Reboot the machine and test.
For OCS 2007, you can check if the similar value in registry exist, if yes, try to change it and then test agin.
Best Regards,
Eason Huang
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