Re-sizing - advice please

Hi
http://www.maxelcat.co.uk/expt/correct_index.html
I am re building this site after useful advice reveiced
yesterday because I rather foolishly (!) built it using several
absolute "layers" (yuk - hate that term). I have done the above
with floats to minimise the affects of re-sizing of text, and its
MUCH MUCH better.
Howeverf, on the LHS is a links column. I cannot change the
layout of this page. WHen the page is resized all the areas stay as
readable - the text doesn't chop off anywhere (or not that i have
noticed). The links area is different. I know there is an
"overflow" property - what should I set the attribute to? Scroll
bars? What do people who have to enlarge the text prefer to use?
As ever, any advice greatly appreciated

I would forget the clones unless you need data on them. don't try to copy applications from them! you have a smooth running machine. don't mess with that.
I would run windows update a few times until you have nothing left to update. including optionals, if you have any.
if you want to install cs3 and cs4, install cs3 first. get everything running. apply all updates. run the adobe updater a couple of times to make sure they all install correctly and nothing is left.
once that all works move on to 4. i wouldn't leave anything off the installation. let it do it's thing.
>1066 memory
might consider bumping that to at least 2 gig...

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