Re: Smart quotes won't work

My situation is a bit different to the main thrust of this thread but is still 'smart quotes don't work'.
I'm on a 2009 iMac, using Yosemite 10.10.1, Pages 5.5.2
I've followed the instructions on Apple's page (http://help.apple.com/pages/mac/5.0/#/tanad45f9cce) to make all quotes smart quotes in my document and it didn't work.
When I opened Substitutions in Pages the box for smart quotes was ticked, unticking and reticking and doing 'replace all' made no difference.
Prior to this I'd just changed the font style setting for the document from Courier New to Times New Roman.
I've also checked in System Prefs/Keyboard/Text where Use smart quotes is ticked.
I'm formatting a book, this is holding up production of my book as all quotes are non-curly, straight quotes and need to be changed to smart quotes.
I'm wondering whether I shouldn't go back to the previous version of Pages where everything seemed to work, including auto capitalisation.

Pages '08 and '09 are unaware of the Operating System on this point.
You get the described characters because the app is running in German.
At this time, you
may just disable the quotes substitution feature.
Uncheck the box which is checked here.
I will search in the app resources if I may change the set of substitution quotes.
Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) dimanche 30 janvier 2011 17:52:29
I got it.
The resource is stored in :
Macintosh HD:Library:Application Support:iWork '09:Frameworks:SFWordProcessing.framework:Versions:A:Resources:German.lproj:Aut oCorrect.plist
To change the behavior, you must edit the pointed set of characters.

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Smart quotes won't work

Hello there dear community,
for some reason, Pages will not put quotation marks as I want them to be. As I am from Germany and therefore gernerally write in German, quotation marks are not “ ” but „ ” . I have not figured out how to get Pages to do that. I have already changed spelling language to German, enabled and disabled Smart Quotes, and set the System Preferences to the format I'd like the marks to be, but nothing happens.
What am I doing wrong?
Thank you.

Pages '08 and '09 are unaware of the Operating System on this point.
You get the described characters because the app is running in German.
At this time, you
may just disable the quotes substitution feature.
Uncheck the box which is checked here.
I will search in the app resources if I may change the set of substitution quotes.
Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) dimanche 30 janvier 2011 17:52:29
I got it.
The resource is stored in :
Macintosh HD:Library:Application Support:iWork '09:Frameworks:SFWordProcessing.framework:Versions:A:Resources:German.lproj:Aut oCorrect.plist
To change the behavior, you must edit the pointed set of characters.

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Yes, this is dysfunctional. No difference whether Smart Quotes enabled on this panel and/or in the System Preferences > Keyboard > Text panel. Another fine example of write/modify code without adequate testing.
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I've since learned that I can use Ctrl+' and Ctrl+Shift+' (Mac) for the cheapo feet and inches marks. Thanks for the info about prime marks though, I didn't know about them – that they are the "real" feet and inches marks. I also didn't know that Smart Quotes would convert quotes during copy and paste.
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red_menace:
That's my problem: no matter how I set the preferences in the applications, the smart quotes won't go away.
There is clearly an issue with smart quotes in your configuration. The global smart quotes setting is not being honored, nor is any local setting that might exist.
Which particular application are you using to edit your Python code when this problem arises?
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Did the tools you are using also get restarted after the global settings were changed?
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Smart quotes not working in Pages 5.5.2

I'm unable to get smart quotes in Pages.
I'm on a 2009 iMac, using Yosemite 10.10.1, Pages 5.5.2
I've followed the instructions on Apple's page (http://help.apple.com/pages/mac/5.0/#/tanad45f9cce) to make all quotes smart quotes in my document and it didn't work.
When I opened Substitutions in Pages the box for smart quotes was ticked, unticking and reticking and doing 'replace all' made no difference.
Prior to this I'd just changed the font style setting for the document from Courier New to Times New Roman.
I've also checked in System Prefs/Keyboard/Text where 'Use smart quotes' is ticked.
I'm formatting a book, this is holding up production of my book as all quotes are non-curly, straight quotes and need to be changed to smart quotes.
I'm wondering whether I shouldn't go back to the previous version of Pages where everything seemed to work, including auto capitalisation.

Additionally re my first post above I've tested for smart quotes in MS Word 2008 and Mail 8.1 and they both support smart quotes. Word also converts between quote types.
I've had to create a workaround to get my Pages document showing smart quotes:
I tested smart quote support in Word by pasting a page from the Pages document into Word and then converting the straight quotes to curly quotes. which worked. I then copied that text and pasted it back into a new blank page in Pages, the smart quotes stayed curly. So, I'm about to copy and paste my whole book, 55,000+ words, into Word and convert quotes and then paste it back into Pages.
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Smart Quotes replacement in Pages STILL isn't fixed (after today's update).
I sent Apple Feedback twice (about two months ago), I called them, I filed tickets…what does it take to fix a menu that DOESN'T WORK?
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on run {input, parameters}
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> The latest version of ColdfFusion with the updater
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> charset. This worked on CF7 pre updater and CF 6. Is
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