Re-sorting order...a little goofy

Hello all,
Re-sorting your picture order seems to act differently depending on how your viewing in the Library.
Looking at a grid under a keyword, you can not re-sort your picture order?
Looking at a grid under "picks only", when you drag and drop every picture changes its order?, whats up with that?
Looking at a grid under a folder or Collection, seems the only place you can drag and drop to re-sort your picture order??
This cant be right, is it? Unless I'm really missing something here, which mostly likely is the case, this is not really great and needs to be fiXed!
Any and all suggestions or comments are welcome,
Thanks, Donnie

The moral being. After doing your search. Make a Collection of those images and then you can re-oerder them.
Don
Don Ricklin, MacBook 1.83Ghz Duo 2 Core running 10.4.9 & Win XP, Pentax *ist D
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