Re : Third-Party Order Processing for Subcontracting ( Enhancement Pack 5)

Hi,
In Third-Party Order Processing for subcontracting - Purchase orders for products that are finished by a subcontractor and sent straight to the end customer. PR created in Sales system are processed further in this scenario where you direct your SC Vendor to send the material to your customer.
Although its a standard third party scenario with sub contracting job involved in it.
There is not much information we have in SAP help. This is ECC6 Enhancement pack 5 feature.
If any one has worked on this, I need a process flow to understand this process.
Response is apprecited,
Regards,
Dipak
Edited by: Dipak Kumar on Apr 13, 2011 6:43 AM
Any idea is appreciated?

Hi,
Here you can treat this two procedures are diffrent
For Contractor
Create P.O >> send semifinish goods to vendor
For sales Point
Sales order >> PR >> PO >> Vendor invoice reciept >> Customer invoice Issue wrt order.

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3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
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9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing      *--
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