Reading Develop Settings

When I open an image and see the little "+/-" icon on the thumbnail, I know the image "Has Develop Adjustments."
What is the correct way to read out these adjustments? Currently, I try to just load the image and watch the sliders change position but there has to be better way.
Is there a way to get a "list" of the adjustments for the image? Is it stored in the Meta data somewhere, etc.?
Second, but related, how do you, once you know the Develop settings, copy them to another image?
Thanks

Your develop settings are shown in the History panel whilst in the Develop Mode .
To apply a set of develop settings to other images, select the image with the desire develop changes, then select the other images. Then select Sync in the develop mode, you can then select exactly which changes you wish to change.
If you have a regular set of changes you wish to apply then save the settings as a preset which you can apply at any time.
For further details on these see the LR help files, hit F1 whilst LR is open to view.

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Read keywords from file but not develop settings?

Is there any way to read IPTC Core metadata, but not develop settings, from a file? I'm still figuring out my Lightroom workflow and made some errors that I'd like to recover from. Here's the situation:
In Lightroom 2.x I selected images, gave them star ratings, and made initial Develop module adjustments. I did NOT write the metadata back to the files (my mistake). Later, my keywording assistant opened the files in another program (Breeze Browser) and added extensive keywords using a controlled vocabulary that works very well and very fast in Breeze. Now I have extensive caption and keyword data in the XMP sidecars, but develop settings in Lightroom's database. I need to merge them.
The slow and tedious workaround in Lightroom is to select the photo, copy the develop settings, read the metadata from the file, then paste the develop settings back in. It works, but is repetative and slow. There's not even a keyboard shortcut for reading metadata. The other tedious workaround is to export the keywords to a text file (using Breeze) and copy & paste them into Lightroom's keywords field. But that's even slower.
Is there a way to write only the develop settings to the files?
Any other suggestions on how to proceed? I have several hundred images that need to be fixed.
In the future, I know I need to write the metadata to the files after making any adjustments in Lightroom so the data travels with the files themselves and isn't just in Lightroom's database.
-- Mark Turner

Ok, thanks for the reply.
I feel a bit ashamed now, because my topic title contains the function i needed...
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Cannot copy or clear develop settings in Adobe Bridge

okay, here's my problem. all of the sudden i am no longer able to clear or copy develop settings when i right click on raw files in adobe bridge. the problem seemingly began out of nowhere. when i attempt to use these functions i get the following error message: "Bridge's parent application is not active. Bridge requires that a qualifying product has been launched at least once to enable this feature." i have googled this to no end and it seems there is no solution that actually works. just to be clear, all of the results for this search ive found seem to be users getting the same error message and the inability to OPEN raw files from bridge; this is NOT my issue. i can still open raw files from bridge with no problems whatsoever but i just cant clear my develop settings. ive googled "cannot clear develop settings" and have found nothing specific to my situation. ive tried resetting bridge and camera raw to their default settings and that hasnt worked. ive moved my cache to a different drive and that hasnt worked. i opened bridge from photoshop and that also hasnt worked. id like to think there is a solution that doesnt require me to uninstall and re-install the entire application. any help would be greatly appreciated.

any help would be greatly appreciated.
For that more info is needed like system, specs, versions etc. Check this for a start:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/375816?tstart=0
Also in this forum are several threads with the qualifying problem subject.

What happens when there is a conflict between develop settings stored in file metadata, and the catalog?

Hello,
Wondering if someone could quickly help me with understanding how develop settings are read back into lightroom... (I'm using lightroom 3.6) as I've just had a bit of a panic that my mis-understanding of the system might have screwed things up a bit!
As I do all my image tinkering on a laptop with a small disk, I am often archiving directories of images to an old server we have, and then just bringing them back onto my laptop whenever I need them again. I have a single lightroom catalog on my laptop, and I thought (I now think wrongly!) that all my develop settings updates were stored solely in the lightroom catalog on my laptop, and as long as I kept a copy of the original jpeg images knocking around somewhere so that I could restore them to my laptop when needed, that I could always get back to the most recently edited version of my images. Often I copied a directory of images from the server to the laptop, edited them with lightroom, then deleted the jpg files from the laptop thinking the originals left on the server would be sufficient to restore my work later.
However recently just before deleting a batch of jpgs from the laptop, I did a quick compare with the server and was horrified to realise that the files where different, and that changes *are* written to the jpeg files! Looking in lightroom I have the 'Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG [etc] files' turned on.
My questions would be:
1 - Have I lost work by effectively deleting the metadata from the jpeg files or is it also preserved in the catalog?
2 - What would happen if some develop settings for an image were stored in the catalog, and a completely different set of develop settings were stored in the file - which would take priority?
3 - Have I screwed up and if so is there anything I can do to minimise the damage? : {
Many thanks for any advice!!
Nicola

My questions would be:
1 - Have I lost work by effectively deleting the metadata from the jpeg files or is it also preserved in the catalog?
2 - What would happen if some develop settings for an image were stored in the catalog, and a completely different set of develop settings were stored in the file - which would take priority?
3 - Have I screwed up and if so is there anything I can do to minimise the damage? : {
1. Lightroom ALWAYS stores the edits in its catalog file.
2. Lightroom ALWAYS uses the edits in its catalog file. The information stored in the JPG is NEVER used to display the image in Lightroom.
3. As long as you don't eliminate the photo from the catalog, you are fine, your edits are present in the catalog file and Lightroom will use those to display the image.
As I do all my image tinkering on a laptop with a small disk, I am often archiving directories of images to an old server we have, and then just bringing them back onto my laptop whenever I need them again.
If you have moved the photos to the server, using Lightroom (or using Adobe Lightroom - Find moved or missing files and folders), there's no need to bring them back to your laptop. You can leave the photos on the server, and access them on the server, and everything works properly

How can I copy develop settings on multiple images from one folder to another?

I have a bunch of Fuji X-T1 raw images that I have converted to DNG form. Once Lightroom supports X-T1 raw images directly, I would like to replace the DNG files by the corresponding raw files (which I have saved) without having to redo all of my edits.
I've tried an experiment with a NEF file, which Lightroom supports: If I convert it to a DNG file, import the DNG file, then replace the DNG file with the corresponding NEF file, Lightroom still thinks the file is named DNG. This behavior makes me nervous.
So what I would like to do is to import all of the Fuji raw files, then transfer the develop settings from each DNG file to the corresponding raw file, then finally archive and delete the DNG files.
Is there any way to do this other than by hand? That is, if I have a folder with a few hundred DNG files, is there any way to tell Lightroom to take the develop settings of every file in the folder and transfer them to the correspondingly named file in the folder of raw files?
If not, can someone suggest to me a way of accomplishing this that does not involve copying and pasting the data for every image by hand?

The Syncomatic plugin is designed for thus type of task to - see http://photographers-toolbox.com/products/jbeardsworth/syncomatic/

Develop settings are not saved

Hello,
I'm working mainly with jpeg and psd files and trying to save all settings and metadata automatically to be able to use it from other applications (e.g.Bridge). The two catalog options "Include develop settings in metadata..." and "Automatically write changes to XMP" are activated.
However, Lightroom does not save the modifications that I made in the Develop module. All other metadata changes (ratings, title, IPTC, etc...) are saved and available in other applications. I'm using version 3.3 on 64bit Windows. I'm not 100% sure but as I recall I didn't have this problem with previous versions.
Is there any solution?
Thanks!

It's not clear what you actually expected. Outside of Lr or Camera Raw the only way that an image will be rendered as per your edits is if they had been exported (i.e. newly fully rendered version of JPEG or PSD). Simply saving the setting does nothing other than embed a bunch of metadata.

CS3 (XP sp3) My "develop settings" vanish or are grayed out!?

I have CS3 installed at my studio and home.
It's been fine, but after a couple months use, at my studio if I right click on a thumbnail to apply the "previous settings" from another image to a group or other single image, the "Develop options" when I right click on the thumbnail has disappeared? (sometimes it appears on SOME images... usually it's gone). Now this happened at home too. (two different machines.
CLICKING EDIT at the top menu and selecting DEVELOP SETTINGS, opens another menu that has ALL the options (faded - grayed out).
My normal work flow is to tweak one image in camera raw, click DONE and then select all like images and APPLY PREVIOUS CONVERSION -
this has now stopped on both machines - it's literally driving my business to a hault! I'm using Bridge 2.1.1.9 it says
I've seen others have this same problem, but I didn't see any solution.

I haven't done your reboot or re-set options yet. (doesn't seem like I need to - as I'm trying other things to try and track down the problem).
So far here's what I've tried.
I went to an older directory and bridge worked fine as it should on all these images.
I went back to the problem dir... (same thing) no develop option on most image. (not all).
So - I created a new dir... "test" and copied 25% of the images that were having problems into the new dir. Went in there with bridge and (so far it's working fine). STRANGE.
(when I click on a image, it brings up camera raw... 4.5 and works fine... bridge stays in the background). WHEN I HAVE THE PROBLEM - clicking the image brings up CS3 in the background behind bridge.
I have no idea why.... still trying to see what causes it.
I'll continue to copy all the files into the new dir and see if I can make it happen again...
will advise as I progress.

Problem with JPGs Downlaoded with Nikon Transfer - Can't Apply Develop Settings in Bridge CS4 and ACR 5.3 Settings Don't Stick

I have found what I believe is a "problem" with JPGs downloaded using Nikon Transfer (ver 1.4.1) and processing same in Adobe Bridge CS4 (Develop Settings) and/or Adobe Camera Raw 5.3 (Photoshop CS4 and Elements 6 as hosts).
Anyone using these programs in their workflow?
The problem, quite simply, is that neither ACR settings (nor Bridge CS4 Develop Settings) "stick" when applied to JPGs that have been downloaded via Nikon Transfer ver 1.4.1.
The same images from the same cameras (D300 and D90), downloaded moments later using Nikon's predecessor software PictureProject work just fine in both Bridge and ACR. Develop Settings appled in Bridge immediately are seen, and JPGs opened in ACR, and settings applied, then "Done" immediately stick and are reflected in Bridge.
If someone else is processing their JPGs in this manner, please let me know, as I have reported the problem to both Nikon and Adobe, and although I have tested it on two different cameras and two differnt laptops, I would like to get an impartial result as well.
One other test, the problem does not seem to affect Nikon's RAW (NEF) format files downloaded from a D2x using Nikon Transfer. More/different test are forthcoming.
Thanks
jeff

ALoverofNikon wrote:
I have generally thought that using the camera manufacturer's software was the safest and most conveneint
Can't say one way or another on that statement about using manufacturers' software. Since Adobe has to interpret each camera models' RAW format having the latest ACR seems to be the best option. But if the manufacturers' software is more convenient, and you get the same results then use it. But it does appear you are not getting what you want, so suggest you try a duplicate test run with images straight from the card reader to Bridge and see if you still have same problems.
I do know it is widely recommended that using a quality card reader gives you more reliable data than getting the pictures straight from the camera. Does not seem intuitive, but that has been experience of many.

I have accidentally deleted a large number of develped images in Lightroom before I did a backup. I reimported the original raw files back into Lightroom hoping the develop settings would be re-established but no luck. Notice system mau have done an auto-

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I have accidentally deleted a large number of develped images in Lightroom before I did a backup. I reimported the original raw files back into Lightroom hoping the develop settings would be re-established but no luck. Notice system mau have done an auto-backup as have an lrcat-journal file. Can I use this to restore my develop settings. I also have jpgs generated from all the deleted images.

Hello,
if you have a backup of your catalog you can do the following:
1. Backup your catalog first
2. Restore your backup catalog to some location
3. Open your current catalog and select "files->import from another catalog".
4. Select your backup catalog and your lost images. LR ask you if you want to overwrite the current settings or save them as a virtual copy.
As an alternativ you can open your backup catalog, select the "lost" images and save the development settings as xmp sidecar fiels (using ctrl-s). Then open your current catalog, seletct the images and use "Metadata->Read Metadata from files".

Why do JPEG files with LR Develop settings open in Photoshop Camera Raw?

Why does an image that has been altered by Lightroom cause the RAW Converter to open when trying to view it in Photoshop. Perhaps this might help; if I import, enhance and convert a RAW image in Lightroom to a jepg image it will open in Photoshop without issue. However if I then alter the jpeg image in Lightroom, update the Metadata and try to view it in Photoshop it cause the Photoshop's RAW Converter to open. Is the alter image's information held in a side car file (xmp) that can'r be read by Photoshop? If so would I need to re-export, (convert), the image again in Lightroom to embedd the changes thus making sure it could be read by all the various programs that are available to view images. As is I send photographs to newspapers and print houses it is important for me to know if they would be receiving fully adjusted images or only the adjustments that were made prior to converting from RAW to jpeg. Just in case...I am new to Lightroom. Thanks in advance for any help.
Message title was edited by: Brett N

When you update the metadata for a JPEG, it is saved internally (there is no sidecar). Any JPEG with Camera Raw develop settings saved in its metadata will open in the Camera Raw plug-in in Photoshop. That is the only way for Photoshop to deal with the Camera Raw settings. Camera Raw settings can be added by the Develop module of Lightroom or from the Camera Raw plug-in dialog in Photoshop or Bridge. To prevent the file from opening in Camera Raw in Photoshop, you have to remove the develop settings and other metadata that ties the file to Camera Raw.

Develop settings did not transfer in Lightroom 5

Hi, when I upgraded my catalog from Lightroom 4 to Lightroom 5, it appears that not all of the my develop settings transfered for all photos. If I am to open the catalog in Lightroom 4, the appear to still exist. How can I see all the settings in Lightroom 5.
-Thanks Todd

Hey ssprengel,
No, I can't really make sense of any pattern. I edited almost all of my photos directly in Lightroom 4 using the develop module.
When I purchased Lightroom 5, I attempted to open the catalog I had used with Lightroom 4 and it told me it would be upgraded. I confirmed the upgrade and this is the new catalog I work with in 5. This is the catalog that does not consistently show me my develop settings from 4.
When I have upgraded Lightroom in the past, I had not run into this problem.
I do understand that I now have two separate catalogs, but in my experience, I had always thought that these settings would transfer as I did not start a new import or make a copy, all I did was upgrade the catalog.
Thanks,

Include Develop settings in metadata have no effect

Hi.
I've just discovered that option in the "Catalog Settings -> Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF and PSD files" have no effect.
I tested this with JPEG and TIFF inside LR 3.3 RC1, but it looks like this issue is present even in LR 2.x too.
No matter what you option is, develop settings are always included into the XMP.
I have exported the same image with this option on and off and they are binary equal except creation date in the XMP.
Develop settings are always there, no matter what you have selected in options.

This is sounding like normal behaviour. It should only apply when writing metadata back to original files.
The 'include Develop settings in XMP' checkbox dates back to the early days when ACR was just starting to be able to process rendered files. It was automatically opening any rendered files into the ACR dialog if there were Develop settings found in the metadata. The checkbox prevented those settings being written to those originals so that you could open directly into PS and bypass the dialog, and additional options have since been added to the Camera Raw preferences in Bridge/PS to allow you to use or ignore those settings too.
Once the files are being exported, there's a line in the metadata that says <crs:AlreadyApplied>True</crs:AlreadyApplied> which prevents those Develop settings being applied again.
If you want to exclude Develop settings from exported files, you can either check the 'minimize embedded metadata' checkbox in the Export dialog to remove all metadata, or use Jeffrey's Metadata Wrangler plug-in to specify which metadata to exclude.

Refresh List of Presets in Develop Settings?

Is it possible to force a refresh of list of the presets in the develop settings menu? I want to get around this issue:
1) Right click an image and select develop settings - a list of the presets in the CameraRaw/Settings folder is shown in the submenu.
2) With bidge remaining in the foreground open, change the contents of the presets in the CameraRaw/Settings folder (I'm doing this with a jsx script in my case).
3) Right click an image and go to develop settings again - the list shown is the same as the list in step 1.
4) Give any other application focus and then come straight back into bridge.
5) Right click an image, select develop settings again - this time the preset list reflects what's in the CameraRaw/Settings folder.
So is it possible to force bridge to refresh that list somehow within my jsx script?

Sorry no you can't alter a menu once it's been created.
You can access any of the items in the develop settings with...
//Develop Settings > Camera Raw Defaults
app.document.chooseMenuItem("CRDefault");
//Develop Settings > Previous Conversion
app.document.chooseMenuItem("CRPrevious");
//Develop Settings > Copy Settings
app.document.chooseMenuItem("CRCopy");
//Develop Settings > Paste Settings
app.document.chooseMenuItem("CRPaste");
//Develop Settings > Clear Settings
app.document.chooseMenuItem("CRClear");
You can't give focus to another application but you can send commands to another Adobe suite application using BridgeTalk
You can de-select all thumnails and select the ones you want to work on, a few commands below might be of use....
//change Bridge to folder
app.document.thumbnail = Folder(Folder.desktop + "/myfolder");
//de-select all thumbnails
app.document.deselectAll();
//select thumbnail
var thumb = new Thumbnail(thumb);
app.document.select(thumb);

CAN'T USE DEVELOP SETTINGS IN BRIDGE

HELLO,
i am using cs3 extended and my camera is a canon 40d. i downloaded camera raw 4.2 and installed it. i am able to see my raw images in bridge but am not able to use the develop settings tab under the edit tab. it is greyed out. so any help would be appreciated.
thanks
tim

You installed the Camera Raw plug-in in the wrong location.
Read the instructions again and pay attention to the location of the Library; it is NOT your user library but your ROOT Library.
Last but not least, download and instal ACR 4.6. All versions of ACR support all camera models supported by previous versions of the plug-in, and they contained unannounced, unpublicized bug fixes, enhancements and improvements. There's no reason to use an obsolete version like ACR 4.2.
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Develop Settings

I have a PC, and I just upgraded to Production Premium 5.5 and bought Lightroom 4
Do develop settings applied in ACR show up in Lightroom 4?
Develope settings applied in Lightroom 4 do not appear in Bridge......
Are they the same "devlop settings"?

Ian Lyons wrote:
The new Process Version 2012 develop settings will not be available in any version of Camera Raw prior to version 7.
I thought that ACR 6.7 will able to interpret PV 2012. The only drawback in ACR 6.7 will be that the new PV 2012 settings will not be changeable in the ACR GUI. And this is already the case for ACR 6.7 RC (with a few rendering differences compared to LR4).
Quote from the lightroom journal:
The correct plug-in for Lightroom 4 and Photoshop CS5 compatibility is Camera Raw 6.7, currently available on Adobe Labs Please keep in mind that currently Camera Raw 6.7 is a a Release Candidate version of the plug-in.
...or did I misunderstand something?

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