Rebate Agreement's final settlement includes invoices already processed
Hello,
I've been testing rebate agreement functionality and I'm facing this issue:
If I define a rebate agreement for a customer just for this day and post two invoices, this invoices are referred to the agreement. After this I do the final settlement for this agreement, credit memo is posted and everything is ok.
Then I define another agreement for the same customer and just for this day again. The next invoice I post is referred to this new agreement. But the problem is that once I do the final settlement of this second agreement it includes the invoices of the first agreement.
I need to know if there is something I've been missing?
Regards,
Hi,
please have a look to this SAP Help link & use all these 27 steps as a key check for your scenerio.
so that you can find right place where you are missing -
[Creating Rebate Agreements|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_ides/helpdata/en/5d/363ec3583f11d2a5b70060087d1f3b/content.htm]
Also have a look to these threads for better look to issues.
Rebate Agreement issue on sales volume
Regards,
RS
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When I try to perform final settlement of a rebate agreement, error "Final settlement is not possible. (There are still open documents)" encountered.
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Jackon RobertHi Omer,
Proposal:
Setup your rebate condition as amount = 0 and accruals = $
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That should work because it is standard SAP logic.
On the other hand, it is a pity not to be able to credit the customer if you already have the rebate agreement created in the system.
Are you 100% positive about this legal issue in your business environment?
I did a few rebate projects in FMCG and it is standard practice to send credit memo to the rebate recipient: The Customer (Payer in SAP).
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I have been looking into the process of how to close out old agreements so that nothing more will post to them and remove open accruals. I was using the icons Final Settlement and Execute Settlement for this purpose. The Excecute Settlement can be used to enter the amount you wish to pay out on the agreement at the time of closing. However it wont let me put 0 in if we just want to clear out open accruals and make no further payment on the rebate upon closing it.
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You have released the rebate agreements that you want to settle. You release a rebate agreement by setting a final release status. You can set the following final release statuses for all agreement items if you click Change Status in the assignment block Item in the rebate agreement, and for single items if you click Change Status in the item details:
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○ Cancel All Items Without Recall / Cancel Item Without Recall
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○ Cancel All Items With Recall / Cancel Item With Recall
Set this status to release items for final settlement at a value of zero with a recall of rebates that have already been paid out.
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You can simply maintain rebate agreement status as B - Agreement released for settlement in your desired rebate agreement for closure or not in use for future.
Hope this can assist you.
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