Redo log recommendations...

hello,
i have been getting the below error freqently in my alert log..
Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence ####
Checkpoint not complete
after reading on it, figured out i need to adjust the size of my redo.
right now i have 4 redo log groups (2 memebers each) and size is 300MB for each redo log group.
this is a very heavy write application...so what could be a good number for my redo...shall i add 2 more redo log groups (300MB) or what cant be this. This is 10g RAC on AIX...do i need to have enough online redo log file allocated so that oracle never attempts to reuse a log file before the checkpoint is initiated...or what exactly needs to be done ..Please explain (if possible)
Please need all of your recommendations on this ...thanks

Hi,
Can you run this script and post the result?
set heading on
set echo off
set linesize 150
set pagesize 500
column day format a16 heading 'Day'
column d_0 format a3 heading '00'
column d_1 format a3 heading '01'
column d_2 format a3 heading '02'
column d_3 format a3 heading '03'
column d_4 format a3 heading '04'
column d_5 format a3 heading '05'
column d_6 format a3 heading '06'
column d_7 format a3 heading '07'
column d_8 format a3 heading '08'
column d_9 format a3 heading '09'
column d_10 format a3 heading '10'
column d_11 format a3 heading '11'
column d_12 format a3 heading '12'
column d_13 format a3 heading '13'
column d_14 format a3 heading '14'
column d_15 format a3 heading '15'
column d_16 format a3 heading '16'
column d_17 format a3 heading '17'
column d_18 format a3 heading '18'
column d_19 format a3 heading '19'
column d_20 format a3 heading '20'
column d_21 format a3 heading '21'
column d_22 format a3 heading '22'
column d_23 format a3 heading '23'
column Total   format 9999
column status format a8
column member format a40
column archived heading 'Archived' format a8
column bytes heading 'Bytes|(MB)' format 9999
Ttitle 'Log Info' skip 2
select l.group#,f.member,l.archived,l.bytes/1078576 bytes,l.status,f.type
from v$log l, v$logfile f
where l.group# = f.group#
Ttitle off
prompt =========================================================================================================================
Ttitle 'Log Switch on hour basis' skip 2
select to_char(FIRST_TIME,'DY, DD-MON-YYYY') day,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'00',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'00',1,0))) d_0,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'01',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'01',1,0))) d_1,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'02',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'02',1,0))) d_2,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'03',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'03',1,0))) d_3,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'04',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'04',1,0))) d_4,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'05',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'05',1,0))) d_5,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'06',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'06',1,0))) d_6,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'07',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'07',1,0))) d_7,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'08',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'08',1,0))) d_5,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'09',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'09',1,0))) d_9,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'10',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'10',1,0))) d_10,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'11',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'11',1,0))) d_11,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'12',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'12',1,0))) d_12,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'13',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'13',1,0))) d_13,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'14',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'14',1,0))) d_14,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'15',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'15',1,0))) d_15,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'16',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'16',1,0))) d_16,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'17',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'17',1,0))) d_17,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'18',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'18',1,0))) d_18,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'19',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'19',1,0))) d_19,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'20',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'20',1,0))) d_20,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'21',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'21',1,0))) d_21,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'22',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'22',1,0))) d_22,
       decode(sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'23',1,0)),0,'-',sum(decode(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'HH24'),1,2),'23',1,0))) d_23,
       count(trunc(FIRST_TIME)) Total
from v$log_history
group by to_char(FIRST_TIME,'DY, DD-MON-YYYY')
order by to_date(substr(to_char(FIRST_TIME,'DY, DD-MON-YYYY'),5,15) )
/Cheers,
Francisco Munoz Alvarez
www.oraclenz.com

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Querying the v$instance_recovery view
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59 165888 93 59 290 16080
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2 1 0 304087040
3 1 0 304087040
4 1 0 304087040
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ACTUAL_REDO_BLKS TARGET_REDO_BLKS TARGET_MTTR ESTIMATED_MTTR OPTIMAL_LOGFILE_SIZE CKPT_BLOCK_WRITES
*696* 646947 120 59 *276* 18474
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sunny_123 wrote:
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OS : SunOS 5.10 Generic_118855-36 i86pc i386 i86pc
This might be a silly question for the experts :(
We are having 2 standby databases and 1 logical database. Everything is running fine , I have one confusion : My primary server having 3 online redo log files and 3 standby redo log files (on primary local), but as per the architecture standby redo logs should be on standby server.My question is whether standby redo logs on standby are online redo logs of standby server or standby redo logs of primary server. e.g If i perform a log switch on primary then what is the role of sync and affirm, will lgwr write parallel on online redo logs ,standby redo logs (of primary) or online redo logs (of primary) and online redo logs (which is known as standby redo logs on standby ). Please help me to understand the scenerio.
Thanks in advance!

RFS receives redo information from the primary database.
RFS can write the redo into standby redo logs or directly to archived redo logs. Each LNSn and ARCn process from the primary database has its own RFS process.
A standby redo log is used only when the database is in the standby role to store redo data received from the primary database. Standby redo logs form a separate pool of log file groups.
Configuring standby redo log files is highly recommended on all standby databases in a Data Guard configuration, including the primary database to aid in role reversal.
A standby redo log is required to implement:
• The maximum protection and maximum availability levels of data protection
• Real-time apply
• Cascaded redo log destinations
Standby redo logs are recommended for maximum performance data protection mode. Unless you are using the real-time apply feature, standby redo logs must be archived before the data can be applied to the standby database. The standby archival operation occurs automatically.

Cold backup with online redo logs

I am working on 10G in AIX for a single instance
It is just a general db backup & restore question, but I have something confused.
I am going to perform a cold backup with my ARCHIVELOG database.
No wonder why I perform a cold backup because it is a testing database which can suffer from data lost and down time during backup.
I read some guides. They all mentioned to backup all the datafiles and control files.
During the restoration, I have to copy all the backed up datafiles and control files to the default location.
Then Startup mount;
The last step before open the database is recover database until cancel;
For the acknowledgement, I have to do the command of recover database, because the online redo logs were not backed up, thus we have to recover it in order to reset the redo logs.
For my question,Would I be able to skip the command of recover database, then directly startup the database if I have backed up the online redo logs and copy the default location during the restoration?
However, I read many documents which mention that it is not suggested to backup the online redo logs. Is it just the case which ONLY applied in hot backup? Do you all think that for my case, cold backup for online redo logs is recommended?
Thanks all

jgarry wrote:
Edit: And never forget, those test databases are some developers production.Absolutely true according to my experience. Loosing the work of a payed developer is just as bad as loosing the work of a production system and may even be worse because it may not be possible to re-enter missing data into the system.
I think a cold backup is only suitable on special occasions, for instance, to relocate/copy the database to a different storage media, or if the database doesn't change or if loosing changes is absolutely irrelevant. Otherwise, put the database into archivelog mode and do a hot backup. After that you will also have alternative options which can make the restore and recovery of the database very easy and efficient, like flashback database, etc. but it will take substantial additional disk space.

Best RAID configuration for storing Datafiles and Redo log files

Database version:10gR2
OS version: Solaris
Whis is the best RAID level for storing Datafiles and Redo log files?

Oracle recommends SAME - Stripe And Mirror Everything.
In the RAC Starter Kit documentation, they specifically recommend not using RAID5 for things like voting disk and so on.
SAN vendors otoh claims that their RAID5 implementations are as fast as RAID10. They do have these massive memory caches...
But I would rather err on the safer side. I usually insist on RAID10 - and for those databases that I do not have a vested interest in (other than as a DBA), and owners, developers and management accept RAID5, I put the lead pipe away and do not insist on having it my way. :-)

When is anything written to standby redo logs on standby database?

I am on Oracle 10.2.0.4 on HP UNIX. I have read Oracle 10.2 concepts guide on technet.oracle.com, have read may article on metalink and internet, yet I am unable to verify when anything is written to standby redo logs on stand by database.
I have a simple database reconfiguration: a primary database and one standby database.
I created primary database and set up log_archive_dest_2 to use LGWR SYNC AFFIRM
I have created standby redo logs on primary.
alter database add standby logfile GROUP
I create standby control file on primary.
I copied all the primary information to create standby database. I have put standby database in managed recovery.
I did archive log switches, I created a table and inserted information in table.
I never saw standby redo logs updated on standby database by looking at timestamp of standby redo log files.
I then setup database in maximum availability mode by running following on primary:
Alter database set standby database to maximize availability
When I do insert into my tables, I do see standby redo log files on primary database being updated, but I have never seen standby redo logs on standby database updated. Why?
I am still at loss when actually standby redo logs are updated on standby database.
When I read Oracle 9i database documentation on data guard, it says that you do not need standby redo logs on primary instead you need them on standby. Only reason, you need them on primary is from primary changes role to standby database, so standby redo logs on standby database should be updated instead of standby redo logs on primary.

What is the PROTECTION_MODE ,PROTECTION_LEVEL values of your database.
As per metalink:--
Create standby redo log files, if necessary:
Standby redo logs are necessary for the higher protection levels such as
Guaranteed, Instant, and Rapid. In these protection modes LGWR from the
Primary host writes transactions directly to the standby redo logs.
This enables no data loss solutions and reduces the amount of data loss
in the event of failure. Standby redo logs are not necessary if you are using
the delayed protection mode.
If you configure standby redo on the standby then you should also configure
standby redo logs on the primary database. Even though the standby redo logs
are not used when the database is running in the primary role, configuring
the standby redo logs on the primary database is recommended in preparation
for an eventual switchover operation.
Standby redo logs must be archived before the data can be applied to the
standby database. The standby archival operation occurs automatically, even if
the standby database is not in ARCHIVELOG mode. However, the archiver process
must be started on the standby database. Note that the use of the archiver
process (ARCn) is a requirement for selection of a standby redo log.
METALINK ID:- Doc ID: Note:219344.1
Edited by: Anand... on Sep 15, 2008 2:15 AM

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