Reduction in Qty. in Exhisting PO for Third Party Orders

Hi,
Lets take up this example first, Consider a TPO with belwo details.
Sale Order - Third Party
Item 1 / Qty - 500 / Item Cat - TAS / Del. Date1
Corresponding PR to this
Purchase Order
Item 1 / Qty - 500 / Item Cat - TAS / Del. Date1 / Vendor 1
After Placing the Order to Vendor 1 , he comes back and says he can deliver only 250 qty on Del. Date1. & remaining 250 he cannot deliver on the same date.
And i create different new PO for the difference in qty. that is 250 to Vendor 2. who can deliver the same goods on Date1 as in the SO.
Now if i want to update the exhisting PO which is placed on Vendor 1 by reducing the qty to 250. i am getting an error message stating " PO QTY. IS LESS THAN SO QTY".
My question is
1. Why cant we reduce the Qty. at PO ?
2. If we can do that , How ?
Thanks in Advance !!

Hi Sridhar ,
Refer Table EKKN for PO and SO Linkage.
Table EBKN for PR and SO Linkage.
Regards
Ramesh Ch

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Alvaro Tejada Galindo

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